If they trade Dowdle…

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Something needs to be done. This is unfair to him and the team and the fans. 
 

One thing, if he plays a reduce role and stays healthy it may help him in the market because people are not going to forget those two games and him out playing Chuba once Chuba came back. 
 

One thing that could be is Chuba isn’t 100% but didn’t want to stay out because he was afraid of losing his job. That is serious speculation though with no facts behind it. 

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1 hour ago, mrBdawg said:

I don’t really know what happened but Chuba looks awful this year. He ran with a lot more aggression and decisiveness last year. He’s looked sluggish, even pre injury.

What Canales is doing is coaching malpractice. I do not care you paid Chuba 8 mil a year. You play the best players, period. Especially after Rico came in and absolutely dominated. And has continued to look not just better, but look like the FAR better player.

You play the damn game to win. You don’t find a player like Rico and trade them for nothing. Playing the damn draft pick trading card game has destroyed this team. 

I think it has more to do with him being a Captain and Dave not wanting to embarrass him. But whatever it is somebody has to have that come to Jesus moment. 

[Ornias]

DC is not cut out for the big chair. Not playing Rico in the 2nd half proves it. I also wondered in another thread if Rico told DC to stick his rotation. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

4 minutes ago, Ornias said:

DC is not cut out for the big chair. Not playing Rico in the 2nd half proves it. I also wondered in another thread if Rico told DC to stick his rotation. 

Im guessing Rico told him to shove his rotation up his ass. Probably gonna go to DM and request a trade to a competent HC tomorrow. 

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4 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Im guessing Rico told him to shove his rotation up his ass. Probably gonna go to DM and request a trade to a competent HC tomorrow. 

That wouldn’t be the best look for him but I wouldn’t blame him 

[SmokinwithWilly]

3 minutes ago, strato said:

That wouldn’t be the best look for him but I wouldn’t blame him 

It wouldn't be a good look at all but Im sure anyone looking for a RB would understand why he felt that way as well. 

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17 minutes ago, Ornias said:

DC is not cut out for the big chair. Not playing Rico in the 2nd half proves it. I also wondered in another thread if Rico told DC to stick his rotation. 

I thought the same thing. You don’t come out and post two straight 200 yard games and then have your touches cut in half and take it laying down. Making the fans pissed off and the team vibes go downhill in the process. Canales has it be careful with this kind of sh*t because he doesn’t have the same kind of credit with the players Ron Rivera did sticking to his veterans, Canales has done nothing but lose in Carolina so far. 

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2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

in fairness to the front office, and god knows I have skewered them, Chubbas deal at the time was simply window dressing about paying your players and its relatively easy to get out from under,  I suspect this is the brandt effect

 

OK, then (I haven't looked). If it's as you say, and I'm not doubting you, then why in the fug would we trade Rico if it's relatively easy to get rid of Chuba, especially when we have JB (at least in theory) returning at some point in the future as well? You gotta trade Chuba and extend Dowdle, right?

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8 minutes ago, TD alt said:

OK, then (I haven't looked). If it's as you say, and I'm not doubting you, then why in the fug would we trade Rico if it's relatively easy to get rid of Chuba, especially when we have JB (at least in theory) returning at some point in the future as well? You gotta trade Chuba and extend Dowdle, right?

That’s where I am falling on it, in the practical clinical view. Take the hit on the smaller return you get from Chuba. I don’t think it will happen though 

 

PS even if we don’t have Brooks, we got Rico for a pretty decent price and there are running backs out there.
Rico is doing the role they got Brooks to do, being another good option in the passing game 

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[kungfoodude]

3 hours ago, PantherBoy95 said:

I truly hate to say it, but I agree. Dowdle is not signing back her next year, especially after how Canales and Co. have handled his hot hand. 

I don't believe we're going very far this year...so it's not a decision I want us to make but thinking ahead for the future, if we could get something for him it might be better for the future of the team. Unless there is another option where we restructure/trade Chuba which I'm guessing is unlikely.

I want to emphasize, I'm a huge fan of his this season. But as an organization you have to look beyond that.


(Also keep in mind we have 2nd round pick J. Brooks waiting in the wings, whatever that means to you.)

I am expecting that Brooks will never play a meaningful snap for the Panthers and will be a FA immediately once his rookie deal is up.

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3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am expecting that Brooks will never play a meaningful snap for the Panthers and will be a FA immediately once his rookie deal is up.

I think you have to look at Brooks as a non factor. If he comes back and proves he is, it’s gravy. But you can’t count on anything from him. 

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[kungfoodude]

Just now, strato said:

I think you have to look at Brooks as a non factor. If he comes back and proves he is, it’s gravy. But you can’t count on anything from him. 

Nothing like taking a RB in a weak RB class as a 2nd round draft pick. 

Tepper your expectations.

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Nothing like taking a RB in a weak RB class as a 2nd round draft pick. 

Tepper your expectations.

Pretty sad when Eric Shelton may not longer be your biggest 2nd round RB bust. 

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Nothing like taking a RB in a weak RB class as a 2nd round draft pick. 

Tepper your expectations.

That has to be water under the bridge at this point. Just hope they learn from it. 
I have always said I think that was maybe a mandated thing. Not specifically take him but you help Bryce at all costs, priority number one we can fix other poo later. 
But that doesn’t matter anymore either.