I'm All In On Drafting a QB in Round 1

[KatsAzz]

Every year as long as i can remember, we question if the Panthers should draft a QB # 1 and every year the decision they make in that regard turns out wrong. Why should I believe it will be any different this next draft ?

[tukafan21]

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Everybody says Evans but I think they're too caught up in height. Mike Evans is an absolute beast. He's basically prime David Boston except he didn't derail his career with weight issues. He absolutely physically overwhelms people. That's not T-Mac. T-Mac's size is an asset but it's honestly secondary to his route running, sneaky speed, and natural body control.

 

5 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Yeah, I don't know about the sneaky speed. Sneaky quickness. Agree with everything else. But he definitely tries to big-man bully DBs. Doesn't always come down with it, but I think he needs more attempts deep to maximize his ability. Hate the way the team uses him as more of an underneath threat. If the defense is in Cover 0 or 1, then check to TMac jump ball. Every. Freaking. Time. 

Everyone is seeing it now, but nobody wanted to listen to me when I was saying all these things for well over a year leading into this draft. 

And it's not that it's sneaky speed, it's like I said, he's not a quick twitch guy that has super burst off the line, but once he gets going with those long strides, he really gets moving.  Everyone was so sacred about potential 40 times, he was never going to be that kind of guy to have a crazy fast time, but he has more than enough speed to be an elite WR in this league given everything else he brings to the table.

Which is why using him on the underneath stuff isn't a bad strategy, he excelled on those in college since he's catching it in full stride and was good at getting YAC on those routes.  The problem is Canales' play design and calling, the great coaches run certain plays to set up later plays that get that player running wide open across the middle just 7 yards downfield, but with acres of space and at full stride, and Canales just doesn't have that in him.

But also yes, we need to be throwing more jump balls to him when there's no safety help on the outside, it seems like Canales won't let Bryce check to it for some reason, as he never does, particularly in goal to go situations.  I don't think Bryce has one time checked at the line to throw the fade to the corner, despite him being covered on an island at least a dozen times in those situations this year already.

5 hours ago, OldhamA said:

AJ Green (also notice how much velocity Dalton has lost on his throws, it's startling):

 

Yep, I saw AJ in him from the second he stepped foot onto the field as a Freshman, to me the closest direct comp.

But in the pre-draft process I saw someone say he's a combo of Plaxico and V-Jax and I couldn't help but feel that was scary accurate.

Edited 5 hours ago by tukafan21

[T-Wazzle]

[LinvilleGorge]

48 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

 

Everyone is seeing it now, but nobody wanted to listen to me when I was saying all these things for well over a year leading into this draft. 

And it's not that it's sneaky speed, it's like I said, he's not a quick twitch guy that has super burst off the line, but once he gets going with those long strides, he really gets moving.  Everyone was so sacred about potential 40 times, he was never going to be that kind of guy to have a crazy fast time, but he has more than enough speed to be an elite WR in this league given everything else he brings to the table.

Which is why using him on the underneath stuff isn't a bad strategy, he excelled on those in college since he's catching it in full stride and was good at getting YAC on those routes.  The problem is Canales' play design and calling, the great coaches run certain plays to set up later plays that get that player running wide open across the middle just 7 yards downfield, but with acres of space and at full stride, and Canales just doesn't have that in him.

But also yes, we need to be throwing more jump balls to him when there's no safety help on the outside, it seems like Canales won't let Bryce check to it for some reason, as he never does, particularly in goal to go situations.  I don't think Bryce has one time checked at the line to throw the fade to the corner, despite him being covered on an island at least a dozen times in those situations this year already.

Yep, I saw AJ in him from the second he stepped foot onto the field as a Freshman, to me the closest direct comp.

But in the pre-draft process I saw someone say he's a combo of Plaxico and V-Jax and I couldn't help but feel that was scary accurate.

Why you quoting me saying nobody wanted to listen? I was always onboard with picking T-Mac.

[tukafan21]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Why you quoting me saying nobody wanted to listen? I was always onboard with picking T-Mac.

Wasn't insinuating that you were one of those people by quoting you, just a more general statement about a lot of people here and was quoting you two because I was talking about the speed/quickness thing, that's all.

[Bear Hands]

All depends on who is there when we pick. Hard to say but I’m open to a QB in this next draft. Whether it’s a low risk 4th to be our new backup or Mendoza or Moore.