QB options for the 2026 season

[Khaki Lackey]

12 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Lol. WTF are you talking about?

I was advocating an older vet seeing as we already have a distressed asset as our QB1.

[kungfoodude]

55 minutes ago, Khaki Lackey said:

I was advocating an older vet seeing as we already have a distressed asset as our QB1.

You want Dalton, Hooker or White???

What answer is on the roster?

[csx]

Im not sure I understand the distressed asset analogy. 

Daniel Jones was a distressed asset. Mayfield  too. They had the abilities but had a low valuation because of their previous management. Bryce Young is limited by his own characteristics.

[Khaki Lackey]

21 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

You want Dalton, Hooker or White???

What answer is on the roster?

Sorry my joke was unclear. I was saying I didn’t want to go the distressed asset route because we already have one on the roster. (Bryce)

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, Khaki Lackey said:

Sorry my joke was unclear. I was saying I didn’t want to go the distressed asset route because we already have one on the roster. (Bryce)

Okay, okay. I get it.

I will say that the pitch there was for two ADDITIONAL options. So, one being a "scratch and dent" QB isn't as critical, especially when paired with a rookie QB. That's just more darts at the board.

Not the best strategy but it's better than standing pat with Dalton and whatever these couch QB's are. 

Ideally, you find a capable veteran but I really don't see that as likely.

[kungfoodude]

12 minutes ago, csx said:

Im not sure I understand the distressed asset analogy. 

Daniel Jones was a distressed asset. Mayfield  too. They had the abilities but had a low valuation because of their previous management. Bryce Young is limited by his own characteristics.

A high ceiling and/or highly drafted QB that didn't pan out with the initial or subsequent teams. 

Mayfield was not a distressed asset. The Panthers made that appear to be the case.

Jones was an upper tier version of that what I am talking about but he also had success with the Giants. It was not all a mess. 

Think more of a Zach Wilson/Bryce Young/Sam Darnold classic bust.

[csx]

14 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

A high ceiling and/or highly drafted QB that didn't pan out with the initial or subsequent teams. 

Mayfield was not a distressed asset. The Panthers made that appear to be the case.

Jones was an upper tier version of that what I am talking about but he also had success with the Giants. It was not all a mess. 

Think more of a Zach Wilson/Bryce Young/Sam Darnold classic bust.

Distressed assets are quality assets that are undervalued because of current management or ownership. Mayfield seems the perfect example. Browns and Panthers were what limited him. Not him.

Jones and Mayfield were acquired cheaply because of this. 

Young doesn't fit this unless you think hes actually much better than he appears to be.

Edited 5 hours ago by csx

[kungfoodude]

29 minutes ago, csx said:

Distressed assets are quality assets that are undervalued because of current management or ownership. Mayfield seems the perfect example. Browns and Panthers were what limited him. Not him.

Jones and Mayfield were acquired cheaply because of this. 

Young doesn't fit this unless you think hes actually much better than he appears to be.

I am using the term differently, neither of us are using it in the true investment industry sense of meaning. 

I mean basically a formerly high value asset that is now reduced in value due to their own performance. In Baker's case, that was not true at all. The Browns just soured on him and moved him at a low value to us. 

Jones was a little bit of a mix. He was a middle to lower tier NFL starter on a bad contract extension. 

I use that term for guys like Wilson, Young, etc because they seem to be largely responsible for their own shortcomings, with some caveats.

[mrcompletely11]

28 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am using the term differently, neither of us are using it in the true investment industry sense of meaning. 

I mean basically a formerly high value asset that is now reduced in value due to their own performance. In Baker's case, that was not true at all. The Browns just soured on him and moved him at a low value to us. 

Jones was a little bit of a mix. He was a middle to lower tier NFL starter on a bad contract extension. 

I use that term for guys like Wilson, Young, etc because they seem to be largely responsible for their own shortcomings, with some caveats.

right or wrong but by all accounts baker was a complete immature ass that his teammates hated in Cleveland. I dont think it was ever about talent but simply him being an ass and the team was not that far removed from Johnny m and they had a chance at Watson they decided to cut the cord.

 

So to me it looks like baker got humbled, matured, got married and alas here we are

[ForJimmy]

39 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

right or wrong but by all accounts baker was a complete immature ass that his teammates hated in Cleveland. I dont think it was ever about talent but simply him being an ass and the team was not that far removed from Johnny m and they had a chance at Watson they decided to cut the cord.

 

So to me it looks like baker got humbled, matured, got married and alas here we are

I thought he got married like a year after his was drafted?  He also has the same attitude it just works when the team is backing it up with wins and he is playing great.

[mrcompletely11]

6 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I thought he got married like a year after his was drafted?  He also has the same attitude it just works when the team is backing it up with wins and he is playing great.

maybe but I can recall reading something recently about how his wife has made him more even keeled etc, but yeah he was a jackass in Cleveland, seems to have calmed down and humbled after being bounced around

 

heres one of quite a few detailing his progression, gotta say its pretty admirable

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nfl-active-news-buccaneers-baker-mayfields-wife-emily-makes-personal-admission-on-failing-marriage-during-bucs-qbs-dark-days/

Edited 3 hours ago by mrcompletely11

[raleigh-panther]

On 10/30/2025 at 5:35 AM, Khaki Lackey said:

I say bring Lance in. We have an OL, decent weapons and, by god, a QB whisperer as a HC. (obviously joking about that last part) Plus, we're statistically due to have a reclamation project work.

My thoughts exactly

lance has issues  we all know that but being able to do a qb sneak for 2 yards isnt one of them   

Neither is throwing the ball more than 5 yards  whether it is to one of our players or a fan in the stands is the issue

even ‘small hands’  pickett  as a backup is far better than Dalton 

Edited 2 hours ago by raleigh-panther

[PantherKyle]

On 10/30/2025 at 6:14 AM, Waldo said:

Take a vet and draft one too (early or later). Young hasn't shown anything worth his 5th year option but this team loves bad decisions.

That's just simply not true. Discredits last 10 games of last year and his games post NE this year. 

[mrcompletely11]

6 minutes ago, PantherKyle said:

That's just simply not true. Discredits last 10 games of last year and his games post NE this year. 

this year he is averaging 180 yards a game 61% completetion

During his mythical 10 game stretch last year he averaged 200 yards per game 60% completion.  

 

you truly thank that is worthy of a 5th year 30 million dollar option?