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Trade Deadline Talk

Mr. Scot

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strato Grand Master

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2 hours ago, frankw said:

That was not directed at you to be clear it was speaking generally to the tone revolving around the topic as I've encountered rather fierce pushback regarding even vague criticism of Morgan and people digging in when forming a defense of him and just a few weeks ago who have since gone completely quiet after we got top to bottom dismantled by the Bills in a brutal loss that was fueled significantly by Andy Dalton's horrific performance.

Realistically putting aside the emotional attachment to Morgan as a former player it is completely illogical to give Dave Canales all the smoke but then shield the guy who was here throughout the bulk of Scott Fitterer's time as GM. He should be getting just as much of a hard look as our head coach is because they supposedly made decisions together and Dan Morgan himself fully signed off on Canales anyways. If one goes they both should.

see we are just not going to agree - unless you change your mind lol. Mine isn’t changing without hard evidence that Morgan supported it like a puppy dog. 
He was the assistant. If he disagreed and said so, and they didn’t listen, he has to pick his battles. If he continued to oppose he is looking for work. He knows this stuff. I think he knows Bryce is a super long shot just because he faced NFL QBs and probably would have salivated at the thought of Bryce on the other side in his playing days. 

Anyway I am going to judge him on what he has done since he’s been the man with the title. 
I also would bet a stack that there were conditions placed on him and on Canales re Bryce Young. Can’t prove it. I am not supporting the Brooks pick, and rationalizing the XL pick. And rationalizing the Brooks pick to an extent, on the (assumed by me) mandate that was a condition of the hiring. Which was ‘sell out’ to make Bryce work. This year. Now. (2024) That is what those top two picks were.  IMO. They failed, id judged today. 
I think Morgan is doing a great job really, once he got his feet under him and was allowed to do his job. 
Fixing this team while accommodating Tepper/Bryce, more than a two year fix. 
 

Anyhow I have beer to drink will check back later. 

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strato Grand Master

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14 minutes ago, NAS said:

Saints WRs Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed: While the Saints have maintained they don't want to trade their wide receivers, other teams are still monitoring their availability.

 

14 minutes ago, NAS said:

Saints WRs Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed: While the Saints have maintained they don't want to trade their wide receivers, other teams are still monitoring their availability.

For the right price… but if they did they would be pulling a Tepper, because they are trying to evaluate Shough and taking his best WR away is making it hard on him. 

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3 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

There is no way we should trade Hubbard without have a deal in place with Rico. Last thing we need to do is get rid of a good running back for draft pick(s) without having our #1 RB in place for several years.

Trading Hubbard should be a decision made based on the "future" of the team. If they deem Rico a wiser investment, long term, Hubbard is expendable. If they deem Hubbard the wiser investment, long term, Rico is expendable.

That doesn't mean they should have a price that is less than acceptable, however.

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23 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Trading Hubbard should be a decision made based on the "future" of the team. If they deem Rico a wiser investment, long term, Hubbard is expendable. If they deem Hubbard the wiser investment, long term, Rico is expendable.

That doesn't mean they should have a price that is less than acceptable, however.

Except that we have already invested in Chuba.  Rico would be additional investment.  Its not an either or situation.  If we trade Hubbard, we would likely have a lot of dead money/cap space used up.  At least for next year anyway.  

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31 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Except that we have already invested in Chuba.  Rico would be additional investment.  Its not an either or situation.  If we trade Hubbard, we would likely have a lot of dead money/cap space used up.  At least for next year anyway.  

I think you overestimate the contract Rico would command. If OTC is correct, trading Hubbard would be about $6 mil in dead cap. Not a large chunk.

 

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4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think you overestimate the contract Rico would command. If OTC is correct, trading Hubbard would be about $6 mil in dead cap. Not a large chunk.

 

I didn't give any amounts, so not really over estimating.  He would be an additional investment.  Not saying we should or shouldn't do it.  

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