Coaching

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

But he is the biggest problem. You solve that, and then you address the next biggest problem, and so on and so on. Right now, he’s 2021/2022 Matt Rhule. 

The notion that replacing Bryce cures all ills is a fallacy.

Other problems exist, and need fixing.

[NAS]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You shouldn't.

Canales brought a lot of Rivera's weaknesses with him

Rivera would’ve at less dropped a few F bombs on these coddles mf’ers. He was no softie

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

2 minutes ago, NAS said:

Rivera would’ve at less dropped a few F bombs on these coddles mf’ers. He was no softie

canales was so hyped after barely winning against the jets

rivera was pissed off over a preseason game

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, strato said:

Play calling being limited or dictated by personnel is really a thing, believe it or not. I imagine that bleeds into design as well. 

Every team has limitations, whether it's blocking, receiving, whatever. That's more true than ever in the age of the salary cap, 32 teams, 17 games and a college system that's moved a long way away from pro-style offenses.

It's the coach's job to know those things and adjust accordingly.

Canales did a poor job of that today.

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, NAS said:

Rivera would’ve at less dropped a few F bombs on these coddles mf’ers. He was no softie

 

1 minute ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

canales was so hyped after barely winning against the jets

rivera was pissed off over a preseason game

Those are personality differences.

Poor depth chart management is an example of a coaching weakness that Rivera and Canales share.

[Pantherxtreme]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The notion that replacing Bryce cures all ills is a fallacy.

Other problems exist, and need fixing.

But every team has problems.

Saint have a worst record than us they have problems. 

The difference between the two teams was they had a Qb making plays he threw for almost 300 yards we need our running game to rush for 150 - 200 yards to even come close to the offensive production that the Saints had because our passing attack can barely muster 125 yards. 

 

 

[ProcessBlue2]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The notion that replacing Bryce cures all ills is a fallacy.

Other problems exist, and need fixing.

I agree. But if your house is flooded, your garage door won’t open, you have a missing piece of vinyl siding, and your front porch needs swept. The focus is probably going to be on unflooding your house first, nobody wants to talk about the porch being dirty or vinyl siding. Bryce is the largest issue (not the only one) and improving the QB position impacts this team much more than solving any of our other problems at the moment, except maybe Tepper but we can’t control that. 

[RevJ]

Coaches will have strengths and weaknesses but Rivera was as good a man as we've had in the HC position.  

Canales has some positives but I suspect he gives out participation trophies from time to time.  Like it or not, the team seems to have taken on his personality,

I wanted Harbaugh or Quinn but honestly don't think Tepper will bring in a bigger dog than he thinks he is.

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

3 minutes ago, RevJ said:

Coaches will have strengths and weaknesses but Rivera was as good a man as we've had in the HC position.  

Canales has some positives but I suspect he gives out participation trophies from time to time.  Like it or not, the team seems to have taken on his personality,

I wanted Harbaugh or Quinn but honestly don't think Tepper will bring in a bigger dog than he thinks he is.

that's the thing with canales, he coaches the team like high school JV coach

there's no punishment for playing terrible week after week and the players know that

it took a "leadership council" meeting to start rico over chuba

[CRA]

2 hours ago, scratched said:

This loss is a sign of poor coaching. This team was unmotivated and looked lost from the beginning. In what was a pivotal game for our season, they come out unprepared and failed to make adjustments! For as bad as BY is, and he is BAD!, we looked lethargic and not ready. 

D played solid enough.  Horn fell down on both big TDs. 

Run game was solid enough given the scenario.  Stacked box overplaying the rush.

We don’t have a NFL QB. Thats the problem.  You can only scheme and call around that so much.  I’m not a Dave fan but this wasn’t a game I feel he was out coached as much it is simply was he has no real answer when he needs a NFL QB to be one.  And it became clear very early the Saints were going to force Bryce to make plays.  

[scratched]

31 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

What adjustments can you make when your players are limited?

Everyone knows Bryce can’t push the ball vertically downfield. The Saints literally set their defense to stop the run and short pass and make Bryce do that and he couldn’t.

WTF is Canales supposed to do other than bench Bryce? Give him a robotic arm? Run HB pass every play? Design a brand new playbook just for this week? I’m at a loss. 
 

Bryce’s limitations are the exact same as Cam’s in 2018 after he hurt his shoulder and couldn’t throw further than 20 yards the rest of the season. That’s what they have to game plan with each week. 
 

Yall really think a guy who had Russell Wilson, Geno Smith, and Baker Mayfield doesn’t know how to call vertical pass plays??

We beat the Packers with BY… we are capable of winning games with him at QB. It is our staffs job to get guys prepared. As Ekwonu said in his presser, some guys weren’t taken this game serious. Also, what adjustments were made once we knew what the Saints were doing. Even the commentators mentioned our lack of adjustments to the blitz. 

[Mr. Scot]

15 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

But every team has problems.

Saint have a worst record than us they have problems. 

The difference between the two teams was they had a Qb making plays he threw for almost 300 yards we need our running game to rush for 150 - 200 yards to even come close to the offensive production that the Saints had because our passing attack can barely muster 125 yards. 

Not the sole difference...

Canales basically got outcoached today by a rookie head coach.

It happens. Gotta see if he learns from it.

[Mr. Scot]

20 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

I agree. But if your house is flooded, your garage door won’t open, you have a missing piece of vinyl siding, and your front porch needs swept. The focus is probably going to be on unflooding your house first, nobody wants to talk about the porch being dirty or vinyl siding. Bryce is the largest issue (not the only one) and improving the QB position impacts this team much more than solving any of our other problems at the moment, except maybe Tepper but we can’t control that. 

Is there a solution to Bryce other than replacing him?

(don't see one)

Canales is more likely to stick around than Young. And sorry, but having a quarterback other than Bryce doesn't fix everything for Canales.

[Mr. Scot]

16 minutes ago, scratched said:

We beat the Packers with BY… we are capable of winning games with him at QB. It is our staffs job to get guys prepared. As Ekwonu said in his presser, some guys weren’t taken this game serious. Also, what adjustments were made once we knew what the Saints were doing. Even the commentators mentioned our lack of adjustments to the blitz. 

Yep