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Canales is telling us, but we aren’t listening

ProcessBlue2

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21 minutes ago, Sir Big Spurr said:

There’s no bigger pussy on that sideline than Dave Canales. When your head coach and QB are such betas, you have no chance. 

We had Mike Vrabel slated for an interview. Can you imagine Vrabel in the middle of year 2 and watching Bryce Young attempting and utterly failing at playing QB against the 1-8 Saints? Suffice to say he wouldn't be indirectly blowing smoke to the media. He would have assuredly already had a viable alternative on the roster and pivoted to that guy regardless of what the GM or the owner thinks because he would do what is best for his football team.

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4 minutes ago, frankw said:

We had Mike Vrabel slated for an interview. Can you imagine Vrabel in the middle of year 2 and watching Bryce Young attempting and utterly failing at playing QB against the 1-8 Saints? Suffice to say he wouldn't be indirectly blowing smoke to the media. He would have assuredly already had a viable alternative on the roster and pivoted to that guy regardless of what the GM or the owner thinks because he would do what is best for his football team.

That is why Vrabel is not here.  
I was always about the strong defensive minded hard ass as a leader model and would have taken him gladly. 
 

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Dalton was resigned since he is the least likely to threaten Bryce’s starting job. Any younger JAG would appear far superior in the preseason.

BY is Tepper’s guy. Tepper has shown 0 apprehension cutting bait… so give one logical reason why T has allowed this debacle to continue this long with this incredible level of suck unless it is deeply personal. Is it for the sake of trying to not meddle? Please.


If Dan had somehow convinced T that BY would be legit, both Dan and Bryce would be long gone by now, but Bryce is still starting games and NO legit backup was signed. Why is that. Dan has been given leeway to improve every other position group, and absolutely has, except QB. Is QB somehow his kryptonite? The guy who made a living out of terrorizing QBs thinks BY is a franchise QB and doesn’t need to go? I’m not believing that one. 

Just imagine preseason games where the backup is connecting with lasers and your starter can barely complete a 15 yard duck. Talk about a bad look and guaranteed QB controversy. That was never going to be allowed. 

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12 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Oh he said a lot. He’s spreading blame. It’s a classic tactic for shielding a single person. You spread it out evenly so instead of one person getting hit with a club, everyone gets a tap on the hand. You protect the individual but eventually lose everyone else after the hand taps add up.

He’s going to rug flip him, watch. He's playing the nice guy “trying to make him successful” and defend him, and protect him, and then towards the end of the year, he’s going to rip the rug out from under him. 

I call it the "sawed off shotgun effect" A good spread covers everything. Instead of calling out the one who's screwing up, they lay the blame at everyone's feet.

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3 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Dalton was resigned since he is the least likely to threaten Bryce’s starting job. Any younger JAG would appear far superior in the preseason.

BY is Tepper’s guy. Tepper has shown 0 apprehension cutting bait… so give one logical reason why T has allowed this debacle to continue this long with this incredible level of suck unless it is deeply personal. Is it for the sake of trying to not meddle? Please.


If Dan had somehow convinced T that BY would be legit, both Dan and Bryce would be long gone by now, but Bryce is still starting games and NO legit backup was signed. Why is that. Dan has been given leeway to improve every other position group, and absolutely has, except QB. Is QB somehow his kryptonite? The guy who made a living out of terrorizing QBs thinks BY is a franchise QB and doesn’t need to go? I’m not believing that one. 

Just imagine preseason games where the backup is connecting with lasers and your starter can barely complete a 15 yard duck. Talk about a bad look and guaranteed QB controversy. That was never going to be allowed. 

Maybe the rumor Big Tep's wife pushed for Young is true

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2 hours ago, CRA said:

no doubt.  I have zero faith in Bryce Young.  But if the Panthers employed me tomorrow and a reporter point blank asked me if I believed in player Bryce Young being able to do doing Y.....I would at least lie and say yes and then say a bunch of gobbly goo about it's not just about him.   

I thought Dave choosing not to endorse his belief on Bryce when asked straight up there was either he spits SO MUCH bologna he forgot the technical right bologna and isn't even really listening to any questions....or water is just so wet he can't directly lie when it is that narrowed down. 

I'd rather hear a Bill Belichick non-answer than that horseshit he was shoveling.

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8 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Dalton was resigned since he is the least likely to threaten Bryce’s starting job. Any younger JAG would appear far superior in the preseason.

BY is Tepper’s guy. Tepper has shown 0 apprehension cutting bait… so give one logical reason why T has allowed this debacle to continue this long with this incredible level of suck unless it is deeply personal. Is it for the sake of trying to not meddle? Please.


If Dan had somehow convinced T that BY would be legit, both Dan and Bryce would be long gone by now, but Bryce is still starting games and NO legit backup was signed. Why is that. Dan has been given leeway to improve every other position group, and absolutely has, except QB. Is QB somehow his kryptonite? The guy who made a living out of terrorizing QBs thinks BY is a franchise QB and doesn’t need to go? I’m not believing that one. 

Just imagine preseason games where the backup is connecting with lasers and your starter can barely complete a 15 yard duck. Talk about a bad look and guaranteed QB controversy. That was never going to be allowed. 

Totally in alignment with this reasoning. 

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50 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

Once it is determined the Panthers are out of the playoffs, I would like to see QB Mike White play a game.

I have followed QB Trey Lance a long, and he is an  upcoming free agent I am hoping the Panthers try to sign. Trey checks all the right boxes and would be an ideal replacement to Bryce Young who I hope is on his way out.

I am of the opinion we need to bring in a solid veteran who can potentially start for most of next season and at least one gamble. Either a bust QB like Lance/Wilson/etc or a rookie QB. 

Let's get some shots on goal at the position. 

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19 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Dalton was resigned since he is the least likely to threaten Bryce’s starting job. Any younger JAG would appear far superior in the preseason.

BY is Tepper’s guy. Tepper has shown 0 apprehension cutting bait… so give one logical reason why T has allowed this debacle to continue this long with this incredible level of suck unless it is deeply personal. Is it for the sake of trying to not meddle? Please.


If Dan had somehow convinced T that BY would be legit, both Dan and Bryce would be long gone by now, but Bryce is still starting games and NO legit backup was signed. Why is that. Dan has been given leeway to improve every other position group, and absolutely has, except QB. Is QB somehow his kryptonite? The guy who made a living out of terrorizing QBs thinks BY is a franchise QB and doesn’t need to go? I’m not believing that one. 

Just imagine preseason games where the backup is connecting with lasers and your starter can barely complete a 15 yard duck. Talk about a bad look and guaranteed QB controversy. That was never going to be allowed. 

I agree. Tepper was hot to trot to dump Cam in a heartbeat and so many QB's after him. 

Bryce is the golden child. Tepper's vision for a QB. 

If he is getting significant playing time after this season is concluded it will be directly a David Tepper problem. Like so many of our problems are.

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4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I agree. Tepper was hot to trot to dump Cam in a heartbeat and so many QB's before them. 

Bryce is the golden child. Tepper's vision for a QB. 

If he is getting significant playing time after this season is concluded it will be directly a David Tepper problem. Like so many of our problems are.

If Young is starting for this team next season I am turning in my PSLs after 30 years. I can't watch BY try to play QB any longer.

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Just now, Panthera onca said:

If Young is starting for this team next season I am turning in my PSLs after 30 years. I can't watch BY try to play QB any longer.

I was amped up to be able to get rid of my PSL's and not take a bath. I can assure you I will never own tickets nor attend an event in that stadium while David Tepper is getting any of the proceeds. 

Same with merch, same with anything that benefits his continual ruining of this franchise.

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4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am of the opinion we need to bring in a solid veteran who can potentially start for most of next season and at least one gamble. Either a bust QB like Lance/Wilson/etc or a rookie QB. 

Let's get some shots on goal at the position. 

My ideal  plan would have Trey Lance step right in next year as the starting QB and have Mike White as the back up.

I would have more confidence that they could both do the job than try depending on getting an older veteran QB that  are scarce and hard to find.available.

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