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Our Next QB: The Qualifiers

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mrcompletely11 Grand Master

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7 minutes ago, CRA said:

someone with a strong enough arm to play football outdoors. 

Bryce Young has 39 NFL starts.  

He has just 7 games indoors.  

In those 7 games, they contain 83% of his starts where he threw for more than 2 TDs (so every game but 1 was indoors) and 53% of his 200+ yard games as a passer. 

Surely the front office knows this.   Jesus that's awful 

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10 minutes ago, CRA said:

someone with a strong enough arm to play football outdoors. 

Bryce Young has 39 NFL starts.  

He has just 7 games indoors.  

In those 7 games, they contain 83% of his starts where he threw for more than 2 TDs (so every game but 1 was indoors) and 53% of his 200+ yard games as a passer. 

Great find on this, rough to see it laid out like that. Now we know why he plays so well against ATL.

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Surely the front office knows this.   Jesus that's awful 

as much as I like to bash David Tepper, I am of the belief the QB issue is rooted with the folks Tepper employs to make those actual calls/decisions.   With both his pro teams.  He might want to put the final stamp on things but he is doing it all off the sales job they do on their decisions.  The Bryce folks never left.  Fitterer simply got fired because of the collective mess and embarrassment that went down.  

Morgan went into this season because Morgan (part of the team that brought us Bryce)......still believed.  And orchestrated a shame QB room to keep him safe.  And Morgan refused to trade Bryce and allowed the comeback when the national consensus after Dave benched and moved on from him 2 weeks into his era......was to trade him.  Because that is what teams do when they dump a QB like Bryce in that fashion. 

Nothing we can do about Tepper.   And I think Tepper has reached a point where he is overblamed.   I think the biggest issue on Bryce and why we went into this season with a shame QB room......is Dan Morgan and his team. 

 

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8 minutes ago, CRA said:

as much as I like to bash David Tepper, I am of the belief the QB issue is rooted with the folks Tepper employs to make those actual calls/decisions.   With both his pro teams.  He might want to put the final stamp on things but he is doing it all off the sales job they do on their decisions.  The Bryce folks never left.  Fitterer simply got fired because of the collective mess and embarrassment that went down.  

Morgan went into this season because Morgan (part of the team that brought us Bryce)......still believed.  And orchestrated a shame QB room to keep him safe.  And Morgan refused to trade Bryce and allowed the comeback when the national consensus after Dave benched and moved on from him 2 weeks into his era......was to trade him.  Because that is what teams do when they dump a QB like Bryce in that fashion. 

Nothing we can do about Tepper.   And I think Tepper has reached a point where he is overblamed.   I think the biggest issue on Bryce and why we went into this season with a shame QB room......is Dan Morgan and his team. 

 

I suspect we know the direction by mid January 

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4 minutes ago, CRA said:

as much as I like to bash David Tepper, I am of the belief the QB issue is rooted with the folks Tepper employs to make those actual calls/decisions.   With both his pro teams.  He might want to put the final stamp on things but he is doing it all off the sales job they do on their decisions.  The Bryce folks never left.  Fitterer simply got fired because of the collective mess and embarrassment that went down.  

Morgan went into this season because Morgan (part of the team that brought us Bryce)......still believed.  And orchestrated a shame QB room to keep him safe.  And Morgan refused to trade Bryce and allowed the comeback when the national consensus after Dave benched and moved on from him 2 weeks into his era......was to trade him.  Because that is what teams do when they dump a QB like Bryce in that fashion. 

Nothing we can do about Tepper.   And I think Tepper has reached a point where he is overblamed.   I think the biggest issue on Bryce and why we went into this season with a shame QB room......is Dan Morgan and his team. 

 

I disagree. I think he is not blamed enough.

The one thing ex-players and coaches(across all sports) consistently talk about is how important good ownership is for franchise success.

Of the overall fault, more than 95% lays at Tepper's feet.

These are all the people he selected fuging this all up.

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