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We have a Dave Canales Problem

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Jmac Grand Master

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14 hours ago, TD alt said:

Yep, not the smartest play call. It's evidence that Canales is trying to be cute, or that he simply doesn't believe in the RB or line to get the job done.

But he believes in Mighty Mouse who blew up for one game? Unqualified as a HC....or a OC?

Maybe both.

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Excuses, excuses. If a fan sitting at home can see what's going down on the field, then a highly paid NFL HC should be able to fiqure it out. He said last week in the post game locker room snippet "that I almost lost the game for you guys" because of his bone head play calling. Well he succeeded this week losing the game.

Sure, Bryce was terrible and Canales isn’t any better. Two peas in a pod.

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16 hours ago, NAS said:

He’s losing respect in that locker room

You know Rico has the respect of the locker room. When Rico is pissed and going to social media, it’s going to have a huge ripple effect. Dumb ass Dave Canalas is losing games for us. Hell that dumb ass took points off the board to pass it at the 1!  Hahaha you can’t make this stuff up. 

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10 hours ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

They are both poo. 

Bryce is the worst starting QB in almost every metric. Canales can be debated as he has managed to win 6 games this season with that shitty QB. 

If only he was allowed to replace him instead of having to roll into this season with Bryce and Dalton. I hope he keeps depending on Bryce to win games and Bryce keeps living up to his usual garbage games. We shouldnt have to endure another season of him being on the roster, there needs to be no doubt. 

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On 11/27/2025 at 5:54 AM, Zaximus said:

It's a combo really.  Canales and Bryce are both just not doing great.   Canales choices on the run game this season has lost us games.  Bryce still does a lot of bonehead stuff like not running it in for the TD.  But Canales not running the ball didn't really help open things up either.  Also the team just looks unprepared weekly.  That's on coaching.  I agree that he needs to be a HC or an OC and not both.  We need a real play caller in here.   I do agree, I'd like to see Canales with a QB that he feels fits his system more but even without that not running the ball is just crazy.  

Yeah it is a mixed, and mixed up, bag. I think removing the Bryce variable is the first step. 

If that happens and Canales is still doing counter intuitive things, take the next step. 
And that is why we don’t need a huge investment in QB in the draft - that may not be the best move. We need to be sure on Canales before doing that. We should get a vet or three in here. 
 

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Panthers are half a game back. 9 wins probably gets you to the playoffs. We still have the Bucs twice and the saints once. The Bucs are rotting they have so many injuries.

there is one glaring, obvious hole on this team keeping them from getting there. How many games this year has Bryce lost almost single-handedly?

if Canales can bench Bryce and is choosing not to he’s an imbecile. If he wants to but doesn’t have the authority to do so then he’s not worth the position.

either way if they blow this opportunity by continuing to trot Bryce out there then Canales isn’t worth bringing back  

 

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11 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Panthers are half a game back. 9 wins probably gets you to the playoffs. We still have the Bucs twice and the saints once. The Bucs are rotting they have so many injuries.

there is one glaring, obvious hole on this team keeping them from getting there. How many games this year has Bryce lost almost single-handedly?

if Canales can bench Bryce and is choosing not to he’s an imbecile. If he wants to but doesn’t have the authority to do so then he’s not worth the position.

either way if they blow this opportunity by continuing to trot Bryce out there then Canales isn’t worth bringing back  

 

Bench Bryce and start who exactly?

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8 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Panthers are half a game back. 9 wins probably gets you to the playoffs. We still have the Bucs twice and the saints once. The Bucs are rotting they have so many injuries.

there is one glaring, obvious hole on this team keeping them from getting there. How many games this year has Bryce lost almost single-handedly?

if Canales can bench Bryce and is choosing not to he’s an imbecile. If he wants to but doesn’t have the authority to do so then he’s not worth the position.

either way if they blow this opportunity by continuing to trot Bryce out there then Canales isn’t worth bringing back  

 

Bench him for who? A completely washed Dalton with a busted thumb on his throwing hand?  Morgan screwed him. 

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