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Official Week 13: Rams @ Panthers Gameday Thread


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6 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Do we still win this game if defense dont score a TD

Why do people do this? It's a team effort.  If the defense scores a TD it's 6 points in the books. PERIOD That's like saying the Ram's only punted once.  They also had 3 turnovers.  

The Rams have probably the best offense in the NFL but, it shows if your defense can come away with a turnover or two.  You have a chance to stay in the game.  We got 3 turnovers and each one mattered.

 

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9 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Why do people do this? It's a team effort.  If the defense scores a TD it's 6 points in the books. PERIOD That's like saying the Ram's only punted once.  They also had 3 turnovers.  

The Rams have probably the best offense in the NFL but, it shows if your defense can come away with a turnover or two.  You have a chance to stay in the game.  We got 3 turnovers and each one mattered.

 

I am not crapping on the team effort....yesterday was the first time I have been excited watching a Panthers game, so hats off to the team for actually getting me into the game.  With that said, if this team can't win without turnovers, we are not making a deep playoff run and its that simple.  3 Interceptions against SF and we got 3 points because our inept offense.  Now, we scored off the fumble, so I will give us that, crazy 4 and 2 play call to keep the drive alive.  Two other interceptions and we only score when the defense does the scoring for us.  Its a team effort, its always a team effort but from my perspective the defense is hitting on all cylinders when it comes to the turnover battle and our offense is pretty much garbage when given opportunities to turn the tides in our favor. 

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2 minutes ago, Wolfpredator said:

I am not crapping on the team effort....yesterday was the first time I have been excited watching a Panthers game, so hats off to the team for actually getting me into the game.  With that said, if this team can't win without turnovers, we are not making a deep playoff run and its that simple.  3 Interceptions against SF and we got 3 points because our inept offense.  Now, we scored off the fumble, so I will give us that, crazy 4 and 2 play call to keep the drive alive.  Two other interceptions and we only score when the defense does the scoring for us.  Its a team effort, its always a team effort but from my perspective the defense is hitting on all cylinders when it comes to the turnover battle and our offense is pretty much garbage when given opportunities to turn the tides in our favor. 

I feel like turnovers were a big part of 2015. Like a huge part.

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24 minutes ago, Wolfpredator said:

I am not crapping on the team effort....yesterday was the first time I have been excited watching a Panthers game, so hats off to the team for actually getting me into the game.  With that said, if this team can't win without turnovers, we are not making a deep playoff run and its that simple.  3 Interceptions against SF and we got 3 points because our inept offense.  Now, we scored off the fumble, so I will give us that, crazy 4 and 2 play call to keep the drive alive.  Two other interceptions and we only score when the defense does the scoring for us.  Its a team effort, its always a team effort but from my perspective the defense is hitting on all cylinders when it comes to the turnover battle and our offense is pretty much garbage when given opportunities to turn the tides in our favor. 

My point is, you don't win on offense alone. The defense did what they needed to do to help this team win. The Bears are living off of turnover wins.  Turnovers against high powered offenses is a must and what we needed to do.

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Stating the obvious, it is called complimentary football. 
 

Offense has to do it’s part to get the turnovers and stops cashed in. Unless defense totally takes it into their hands. One of those picks scoring would probably have made a big difference, Monday. 
Offense at least keeping their defense on the field yesterday in that 3rd quarter paid off with the run game later.  

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18 hours ago, Navy_football said:

I feel like turnovers were a big part of 2015. Like a huge part.

Thieves Avenue.  
 

Which neither here nor there, for some reason that nickname wasn’t a home run with me. Compared to the great nicknames of the past.
Legion of Boom was a really good one, I have to say. Doomsday defense. Fearsome Foursome. Steel Curtain (Cold War Iron Curtain reference, for the young people). Some others I am not remembering. 
Purple People Eaters was cool. Offbeat but cool. 
edit: seems like I like the ones with alliteration. Or maybe everybody likes it. 
 

and one OL group that I remember, The Hogs. Seems loike defenses get the names usually.  

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