So....What Do We Do About Legette?

[frankw]

8 minutes ago, Car123 said:

We’d have more patience if he had a few 150 yard games or a 200 + yard game. Bryce has had some elite games unlike XL. I still believe XL can be a major contributor.

Sir. Bryce Young has started in 42 career games and has 3 games with over 300 passing yards. And two of those were within the last month.

Let's give XL a little more time.

[jfra78]

11 minutes ago, Car123 said:

We’d have more patience if he had a few 150 yard games or a 200 + yard game. Bryce has had some elite games unlike XL. I still believe XL can be a major contributor.

So XL has to have a 200 yard game to be legitimate in your eyes? This is ridiculous expectation for any WR let alone a wr that has Bryce throwing to him.  Somehow you want the wr to have more yards than Bryce

[PootieNunu]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

Sir. Bryce Young has started in 42 career games and has 3 games with over 300 passing yards. And two of those were within the last month.

Let's give XL a little more time.

Imagine wanting your WR to have a 150-200 yard game with a QB who is averaging 181 yards per game. 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, amcoolio said:

I'm convinced CRA has chronic nightmares about BY and comes on here to try to ease his stress

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I’m just old enough to have zero interesting in trying to wish players good…

and it’s flat out entertaining watch the gymnastics on Bryce and engaging with those who do it. 

most things in life aren’t complicated.  I’m not.  Neither is figuring out Bryce is not why any NFL team actually wants 

[strato]

I know people don’t like him because, last year he did not make a catch vs Philly. 
Because he didn’t get a foot in on a catch so no catch

because twice that I know of he went OB and did not establish himself once back IB. Whatever that means.

Because they wanted Ladd. 
 

But go back and look at every one of his targets this year and see where the ball that is intended for him, is. 

[Car123]

12 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

So XL has to have a 200 yard game to be legitimate in your eyes? This is ridiculous expectation for any WR let alone a wr that has Bryce throwing to him.  Somehow you want the wr to have more yards than Bryce

No, it was a response regarding patience for xl vs bryce. 448 yards bought bryce some patience. Receiving equivalent would be 200 yards.

[jfra78]

Just now, Car123 said:

No, it was a response regarding patience for xl vs bryce. 448 yards bought bryce some patience. Receiving equivalent would be 200 yards.

Okay...

[CRA]

52 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's fine but why are all these other WR's having tremendously more success than XL? AT, Jalen Coker, TMac, etc. 

The issue isn't completely Bryce here, it's XL. 

Now, would he be better with a better QB and a better system? For sure. But he also wouldn't be seeing much of the field in a lot of those other "better" scenarios because those teams do a far better job of evaluating talent and calling offenses. 

I’ve been talking about the Panthers and putting things that don’t fit together for so many years at this point.  Fit is more than half the battle in the NFL.  Yet here we are acting confused. 

 

[kungfoodude]

26 minutes ago, Car123 said:

We’d have more patience if he had a few 150 yard games or a 200 + yard game. Bryce has had some elite games unlike XL. I still believe XL can be a major contributor.

In 24 career starts he has had at least 55 yards receiving 4 times. He has never had a 100 yard receiving game yet. 

For Terrace Marshall Jr, he has had 17 career starts and also has accomplished this 4 times. Never has a 100 yard receiving game.

For Jonathan Mingo, he has had 20 career starts and also has accomplished this 3 times. Never has a 100 yard receiving game. 

For Devin Funchess, he had 41 career starts and also has accomplished this 17 times. He has had 2 100 yard receiving games.

I can keep going or isolate for Carolina only, if you want.

 

My overall point being that XL has been remarkably ineffective while having tremendously more opportunities to produce than most of the other bust WR's that he resembles in our franchise history.

For all the Bryce excuses that get thrown out, this guy gets the #2 spot on that list. There is no excuse for him being as bad as he has been, while other WR's with as many or less opportunities in his same situation are producing better.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I’ve been talking about the Panthers and putting things that don’t fit together for so many years at this point.  Fit is more than half the battle in the NFL.  Yet here we are acting confused. 

 

I think the issue is that being a player that lacks a lot of fundamentals isn't going to fit just about anywhere. 

He's a project player being given two seasons worth of starting opportunities. 

That was stupid in the first place. He shouldn't have been drafted where he was to start with and if we did pick him up where he should have been drafted(4th round or later) then he should be developing largely on the bench. Sort of like Horn, Tremayne, etc. Down the depth chart so we can have an impactful and productive player playing.

 

[CRA]

6 minutes ago, Car123 said:

No, it was a response regarding patience for xl vs bryce. 448 yards bought bryce some patience. Receiving equivalent would be 200 yards.

Hard to pull off a 200 yard game when your QB throws the ball 10 yards downfield only twice in a game.  Apples and oranges.  Bryce can throw a ball negative yards downfield and be gifted a 50 yard TD on the stat sheet.  Doesn’t work like that for a WR

reality is, a sane team would have enough info that BY and XL shouldn’t be thought of as the future but things to replace.   But you must of got drunk a got a regrettable Bryce Young tattoo or something 

[CRA]

8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think the issue is that being a player that lacks a lot of fundamentals isn't going to fit just about anywhere. 

He's a project player being given two seasons worth of starting opportunities. 

That was stupid in the first place. He shouldn't have been drafted where he was to start with and if we did pick him up where he should have been drafted(4th round or later) then he should be developing largely on the bench. Sort of like Horn, Tremayne, etc. Down the depth chart so we can have an impactful and productive player playing.

 

One place a raw dude like XL isn’t going to fit at all…..is paired with a weak QB that needs QB friendly WRs.  I mean, when we drafted him it was constantly talked about how he didn’t fit with Bryce.   Would he maybe fit a fug it all chuck it deep O? That would be about it for XL.  Let the big boy have time to run downfield and let the raw tools do what they do.  

we overdrafted a raw WR for the Canales O but one that would be paired with a QB who didn’t fit either.  Results are as expected IMO. 

AT, TMac and Coker have one thing in common.  All are QB friendly.   Easy to see why XL trails them all.  Hell if Renfrow was 6’3 he would likely be a great fit too lol.  But he lacks the size to be friendly enough 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

One place a raw dude like XL isn’t going to fit at all…..is paired with a weak QB that needs QB friendly WRs.  I mean, when we drafted him it was constantly talked about how he didn’t fit with Bryce.   Would he maybe fit a fug it all chuck it deep O? That would be about it for XL.  Let the big boy have time to run downfield and let the raw tools do what they do.  

we overdrafted a raw WR for the Canales O but one that would be paired with a QB who didn’t fit eithe lt him or the O.  Results are as expected IMO. 

He really doesn't do anything well is the issue. 

[CRA]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

He really doesn't do anything well is the issue. 

Well, in 2 seasons….how legit fug it deep balls have been offered to him?  So, like the one thing we basically drafted him to be….isn’t on the table to really even gauge.  

but look, I’m just BSing with XL in this thread.  Who the Panthers need to move on from is clear.   2 weak links on O are Bryce and XL.   We basically got the rest in place