ESPN guys talk Bryce fifth year option

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

There's no way they could have gone through this season looking at the qb room and say, nah fam we good. I refuse to believe that.

The "room"? Yeah, I expect them to hunt for a better backup.

I also expect whoever they sign will be told they are not competing for a starting job. 

[Bear Hands]

I'm just leading you to keep typing for no reason lol.  I have no point to what I'm saying Scotty.

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To the thread-Bryce is very likely getting that 5th year option exercised.  And it is nothing to overreact to on the fandom's end. 

It's not meaning we're giving him a glowing endorsement for the next 4-5 years, it's basically ensuring him we aren't cutting the cord.  I just don't see a scenario like the Giants did with Daniel Jones unless Bryce completely falls apart and shows nothing similar to the Falcons or Rams games here on out.  

It seems like we'll exercise it, see how he shakes out next year with the growing arsenal and defense around him.  If he really finds a groove, could see a contract worked out next year.  If we implode next season, he will be gone.  

2027 is the year we either land a new QB or will know going in we've got Bryce here for quite a few more.   

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Bear Hands said:

preparation?

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[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Bear Hands said:

preparation?

H

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

H

Heh

Side Note: Why the hell is it called "Preparation H" anyway? It's supposed to be a medication, not what you use to get something ready.

And given where it's used, I'd really like for the manufacturers to explain to me precisely what they want to "prepare" that part of me for? 

Edited 47 minutes ago by Mr. Scot

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

The "room"? Yeah, I expect them to hunt for a better backup.

I also expect whoever they sign will be told they are not competing for a starting job. 

They can tell them whatever they want but it better be the best qb plays.

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The "room"? Yeah, I expect them to hunt for a better backup.

I also expect whoever they sign will be told they are not competing for a starting job. 

Then I would expect Dave Canales to take the path of Frank. You cannot force a coach to be tied to a QB no matter the results. Frank checked out because of this. Dave will too. 

[cranky]

14 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Improved is true. Good is a different thing.

I think that is the issue, he has improved to "not very good" from "really bad."

Are we to assume this progression continues? If so, it probably means 2-3 more seasons before we see "franchise caliber" QB play on a consistent basis.

And I really don't think anyone buys into that notion of consistent improvement at this point.

And yet his numbers are better than Lawrences' and you stated you would trade for Lawrence and his 50M contract. Why?

 

 

[kungfoodude]

Just now, cranky said:

And yet his numbers are better than Lawrences' and you stated you would trade for Lawrence and his 50M contract. Why?

What are you talking about?

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Then I would expect Dave Canales to take the path of Frank. You cannot force a coach to be tied to a QB no matter the results. Frank checked out because of this. Dave will too. 

I don't think he's being forced. 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

What are you talking about?

I think he quoted the wrong person.

You weren't talking about Trevor Lawrence in that post.

[CRA]

30 minutes ago, cranky said:

If you're going to post comparisons, you should post them all. 

If you take the time to look, you can see he has improved in pretty much every catagory: TD%, TD-INT ratio, succ% (passes going for 1st downs), yards/game, adjust yards gained per pass attempt, 4th qtr comeback, game winning drives etc. 

 

 

All the Bryce stans have always said we should forget 2023 existed as it's unfair to look at it.   Now you want it just for the sake of showing the jump from practice squad worthy to backup worthy? ok.  noted. 

the reason you compare the starts (12 vs 12) and omit the 2 token garbage time appearances in 2024, those skew the per game averages.   For example, from a per game scenario, it would be logging him as playing a NFL game with -4 pass yards in a game and treating that as a game.  

which is why you look at starts (12 vs 12 games)

2024 - 195 pass yards per game, 20 rush yards per game, 21 TDs, 11 turnovers

2025 - 194 pass yards per game, 10 rush yards per game, 19 TDs, 13 turnovers

which clearly isn't "pretty much improved" in basically any of the primary categories of production.  It's worse in all the big ones.  Yards, scores, and turnovers. 

if you want to make a Bryce is better in 2025 argument than last year.  Cool.  It's not in his individual production stats that matter though.   

 

[cranky]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

What are you talking about?

Nothing lol. Sorry I stepped away and responded to the wrong post. 

[Panthers Fan 69]

He still has another year before the 5th year. Bring in a steady vet. Let Andy go. Draft one in 3rd round like Kirk Cousins or Rudolph Wilson was. Hope they hit if Bryce sucks. If that doesn’t work. Draft one in 2 years in the first round. Move on from Bryce. Let the vet or 3rd rounder you got start the year and bring in the 1st round qb when ready. 
 

Thats your succession plan if Bryce sucks. Worst thing is game manage it for next year and still draft the next one in 1st round the following year.