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Go after Shedeur this offseason.

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You guys sure have some sick burns for people who have preached patience for 3 straight years to wait for a QB to show us he is the 32nd ranked starting QB since he’s been in the league.  I also said to never trade up in the 2023 draft and wait for Drake Maye the next year.  Yet, here we are.  But yuck it up fellas…

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1 hour ago, strato said:

I am not on his jock but not sure why wanting to avoid being behind Lamar Jackson is worthy of scorn. 

That could be a 4 year sentence to having pine splinters in his butt. Which might be good for him for a couple of years… not 4 though. 

He's following logic set forth by the great 17th century football coach John Milton 😐

A rookie with a losing record in college refusing to sit behind a well established NFL starter is definitely a red flag. 

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3 hours ago, Tr3ach said:

He has looked genuinely bad minus a throw or two every game until this one... for someone who has been bashing our qb since day one basically, youre awfully high on this guy after one good game against the worst team in the nfl.

lol Shedeur is a rookie and is already better than Bryce.  Bryce didn’t have a single game like that as a rookie.  Shedeur has only started, what?  2 or 3 games?  And it’s not after one good game, I’ve been saying he was possibly the best QB in this draft class - number two at worst, prior to the draft.  I think he fell because owners had an axe to grind with Deion and Shedeur also suffers from the same issue Cam faced as a personality - he’s too big to be a backup and teams don’t want that distraction in their backup.

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10 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

You guys sure have some sick burns for people who have preached patience for 3 straight years to wait for a QB to show us he is the 32nd ranked starting QB since he’s been in the league.  I also said to never trade up in the 2023 draft and wait for Drake Maye the next year.  Yet, here we are.  But yuck it up fellas…

It also takes patience to not give up resources for a guy who's had two starts, one of those being against the worst team in the league.

As mentioned, that's Matt Flynn style thinking.

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He's following logic set forth by the great 17th century football coach John Milton 😐

A rookie with a losing record in college refusing to sit behind a well established NFL starter is definitely a red flag. 

Yeah. Well you want a clear path you don’t want to be blocked. Loser winner whatever. 

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Yeah. Well you want a clear path you don’t want to be blocked. Loser winner whatever. 

The word there is entitlement.

And no, NFL teams aren't gonna want to deal with that...nor should they.

Realistically, if he didn't have his dad's name behind him, nobody would be hyping this kid as the next big thing. 

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Today regardless of the Browns loss, Shedeur #144 pick outplayed the #1 pick. If he gets a full off season and starts next year I think he will do well.  The only time that would have been good to grab him was just how the Browns got him for cheap.  I would have drafted him as he would have been better than Dalton as a backup. 

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21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The word there is entitlement.

And no, NFL teams aren't gonna want to deal with that...nor should they.

Realistically, if he didn't have his dad's name behind him, nobody would be hyping this kid as the next big thing. 

That sounds like your baggage. Can he play or not? That is the question. 

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43 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It also takes patience to not give up resources for a guy who's had two starts, one of those being against the worst team in the league.

As mentioned, that's Matt Flynn style thinking.

Some of this is just brainstorming/throwing poo against the wall, seeing as how we have one of the least talented QB rooms in the league.  We need a talent infusion badly.  I feel Shedeur has the prerequisite talent athletically and as a passer, and I have since his college career.  Do I think he will actually be traded this offseason?  99% not likely.  On one hand, he’s proven to likely be the best QB on their roster.  On the other, they, and no other team wanted to take a chance on him for 4 rounds, so there has to be a price they would be willing to part ways with him for.  That’s why I brought up the Joe Milton situation as an example.  He was drafted to a team who took another rookie QB much earlier in the draft, spent his rookie year with them, then was traded before his second year for a relatively low value.  But, again, I also think the attention Shedeur naturally garners makes teams uncomfortable about rostering him if he’s not a starter.

I don’t think we trade for him, and I don’t think the Browns trade him anywhere.  That being said, this is a message board.  Possibilities are fun to discuss and we’re here for discussion.

also,I’m talking about a trade for a mid-late round pick for a talented QB/developmental QB on his rookie deal; that is the antithesis of the Matt Flynn situation.  He had a solid couple games in GB and Seattle broke the bank on him and he bombed big time.  That’s a valley of difference between the situations.

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34 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Realistically, if he didn't have his dad's name behind him, nobody would be hyping this kid as the next big thing. 

There is an argument that his dad's name has been a ball-and-chain. 

Shedeur hasn't acted entitled at all while he's been in this league. He's actually been saying the right things from all the reports I've heard. He's still a young guy, so solid maturity is going to take a little while. I agree that his body of work is very scant, but comparatively to other rookies with two or three starts, he's looked better. He isn't supposed to be perfect, but he's definitely shown a little promise. Perhaps with more starts he will improve. I don't think that's exactly going out on a limb to say that...

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