Why does Bryce get the blame?

[*FreeFua*]

10 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Invested since 2023 to try and make brycey successful.....

2 first round WRs  including a top ten pick

1 2nd round WR

2 highest at signing paid offensive guards 

67% OF THE TEAMS TOTAL SALARY CAP INVESTED ON OFFENSE.

Completly disregarding Theilin who was 32 at the time of signing and produced well for us because hes fallen of a cliff at age 36 is ridiculous.

Same goes for Dionte Johnson he was a threat when he played. 

 

This has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve read on this board in awhile so congrats on that

So investing a 1st round pick and 2nd rounder into Legette and Mingo even though they suck somehow counts against Bryce. Yep that makes sense

lol at Diontae Johnson being a “threat”. He failed on like 6 teams in 2024. Gee I wonder why

Edited 2 hours ago by *FreeFua*

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, CRA said:

Saying the right things in front of the camera at a holiday event for kids....doesn't mean poo lol  

We have 2 pro sports teams and his business dealings to actually judge Tepper off of.  Nothing says he is going to let a losing coaching (with no history of doing anything) start from scratch at year 4.  And again, that extends way beyond Tepper to other teams at that point.   Coaches don't get that sort of time in today's world. 

you just want to argue things at this stage because none of that is rooted in what we know if Tepper. 

Uh huh

Let's just say in some of our prior conversations, what "we" know of Tepper hasn't exactly panned out on any consistent basis. 

[PantherChris]

Just now, *FreeFua* said:

This has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve read on this board in awhile so congrats on that

So investing a 1st round pick and 2nd rounder into Legette and Mingo even though they suck somehow counts against Bryce. Yep that makes sense

hmmmm what postion is 100% dependant on the QB to have meaningful impact...... ill wait

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Indeed, and thats the thing he exells at the hybrid west coast spread/ air coryell PA shots that Canalles likes to take.

I'm talking more Walsh style WCO than Coryell.

I know they used to refer to Air Coryell with similar terminology but after Walsh blew up, I stopped hearing that term used outside of Walsh / Shanahan/ Holmgren and company. 

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

hmmmm what postion is 100% dependant on the QB to have meaningful impact...... ill wait

Legette and Mingo's issues can't rightly be laid at Bryce's feet. 

[electro's horse]

6 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

 

lol at Diontae Johnson being a “threat”. He failed on like 6 teams in 2024. Gee I wonder why

He was a threat. He looked amazing in limited play time, tho I did not get to see the bengals game because of Helene.

he just had mental health problems and now he’s out of the league. 

[*FreeFua*]

5 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

hmmmm what postion is 100% dependant on the QB to have meaningful impact...... ill wait

Diontae Johnson 

DJ Chark

Jonathon Mingo

Adam Thielen 

 

Bryce got the absolute most out of these guys.

[PantherChris]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm talking more Walsh style WCO than Coryell.

I know they used to refer to Air Coryell with similar terminology but after Walsh blew up, I stopped hearing that term used outside of Walsh / Shanahan/ Holmgren and company. 

I use it just to describe the PA/deep up/fade/corner and post...  those were pretty non existent in the original spread, coryell is the run and shoot type stuff now a days i think.

I think modern wise all offenses have a form of coryell now though as well as elements of the spread/west coast.

Edited 2 hours ago by PantherChris

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

He was a threat. He looked amazing in limited play time, tho I did not get to see the bengals game because of Helene.

he just had mental health problems and now he’s out of the league. 

He could be a threat for maybe a couple of games, and not necessarily in consecutive order. 

These days I think he's more of a threat to himself and his career

[PantherChris]

3 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Diontae Johnson 

DJ Chark

Jonathon Mingo

Adam Thielen 

 

Bryce got the absolute most out of these guys.

omg you are so funny you kill me

2023 Chark and theilen both had their best games of the season the one start Dalton got AT had 1/5 of his total yards in that game and 2 of his 4 TDs.

Fast forward to 2024 ALL of Diontes production came in the 6 starts he had with Dalton he had 2 targets for ZERO YARDS IN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS WITH BRYCEY AND THE MAIN REASON HE WAS LET GO WAS HOW PISSED HE WAS WHEN BRYCEY STARTED AGAIN.....

 

Im done you are so deluded you can't see the truth.

[Mr. Scot]

11 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

I use it just to describe the PA/deep up/fade/corner and post...  those were pretty non existent kn the original spread.  

I think modern wise all offenses have a form of coryell now though as well as elements of Walshes spread.

From the 70s through the 80s and a while after you could define most offenses as either Air Coryell, WCO (Walsh) or Erhardt-Perkins.

The core philosophies of those systems are still around and I still use the terminology to describe concepys but I don't know that too many are strict adherents anymore.

Reid maybe. Harbaugh is an old school kinda guy and Greg Roman is his OC so I'd expect a heavy WCO track. Carroll is using Greg Olson out in Vegas if I remember correctly.

But yeah, with people style offenses being all but extinct at the college level, it's a tougher transition anymore... especially at quarterback and receiver.

(remember one GM saying something like most college guys vouldn't recognize a route tree to save their lives)

Edited 2 hours ago by Mr. Scot

[SmokinwithWilly]

46 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

It took awhile but as Bryce progresses he’s essentially becoming exactly what they expected when they drafted him

Bryce was never supposed to be Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen or Joe Burrow. Bryce Young was pegged as a point guard type QB that can give you a handful of special plays/throws a game.

The ones that are crying about the trade still are the ones that never understood what exactly Bryce is/was.  You can disagree with trading up for a QB like Bryce but you can’t hate Bryce for that.

Bryce bailed out the coaching staff and OL enough times on Sunday. He did his part. He extended multiple plays and some big time anticipation throws. There’s at least 4-5 really good plays from Sundays game where Bryce was damn good. Canales is the one who says we just need a few special plays from our QB per game

The FO and even Tepper knew what they were drafting when they took Bryce. Hell, Tepper called him a point guard himself the night of draft. It’s on the FO to surround him/a QB like him with the proper pieces to be successful. Which they have not.

Oh we knew what Bryce was. Super elite processing, low ceiling, high floor. Red flags were all over him at Alabama but we chose to ignore them. You don't trade the farm to draft an undersized unicorn at the QB position. You trade that much for the guy that can be the next Manning, Burrow, Lamar, Mahomes, Allen. 

We didn't just cripple to the team by giving up picks and DJ to draft him, we've also had to spend almost 75% of our assets to surround him for at best, a mediocre production. Bring that back to even between offense and defense and how do you think we end up? And we need to throw in a 40-50m AAV contract for Bryce too. 

But we're going to credit Tepper and Fitterer with being geniuses for bringing us Bryce. The guy with the worst record as an owner over the last 8 years and the guy that got fired the same year he drafted Bryce. And I thought I smoked some good poo. 

[mav1234]

Bryce isn't why we lost on Sunday but if you'd have given him credit for a game winning drive had he actually done something on the last drive (and I would have) then in turn we have to acknowledge he didn't get it done this last Sunday when it mattered.

Edited 2 hours ago by mav1234

[*FreeFua*]

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

 

But we're going to credit Tepper and Fitterer with being geniuses for bringing us Bryce. The guy with the worst record as an owner over the last 8 years and the guy that got fired the same year he drafted Bryce. And I thought I smoked some good poo. 

Who in the hell is giving Tepper and Fitterer credit? Funny how left out Morgan he was just as much on team Bryce as these two were