Possibly playoff affectng news

[toldozer]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

See above. He's as good as cut. They'll eat $18M but still net $47M in cap savings.

Ai is atrocious it said 79 million in dead money. I never trust a single thing that says AI generated. I hadn't had time to research it

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

This also should throw up a red flag to our front office

It won't. They are mortified that they will pull another Mayfield and Darnold fiasco and let him go too soon. Buckle up buttercup it's going to be a bumpy ride for a couple more years. Let's just hope that's all it is.

[toldozer]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

It won't. They are mortified that they will pull another Mayfield and Darnold fiasco and let him go too soon. Buckle up buttercup it's going to be a bumpy ride for a couple more years. Let's just hope that's all it is.

If we go anything less than 2-1 down the stretch I can't see them picking up the 5th year option. Bring in a rookie and another vet and give it an honest competition. If they do that and are completely unbiased Bryce won't win the job

[kungfoodude]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

This also essentially confirms the Dolphins will release Tua this offseason. They can save $47M by cutting him and that's not even with a post-June 1st designation.

And before anyone asks... hell no.

They will try to trade him, most likely. It would reduce their cap hit a LOT and not result in a crazy financial commitment for the team that obtained him.

I do think you will see more interest in Murray, Tagovailoa, Jones and some of the other veteran QB's this offseason because of some of the QB needy teams. Also, this is projected to be a tough QB class in the draft. Don't be shocked if there is a panicked run on these younger veterans.

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

Bucs also placed their starting 6'2 CB on short term IR

[PNW_PantherMan]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This also essentially confirms the Dolphins will release Tua this offseason. They can save $47M by cutting him and that's not even with a post-June 1st designation.

And before anyone asks... hell no.

I don't know.  This makes it look like they don't net out positive until after 2026 with a post June 1st cut.

[toldozer]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

They will try to trade him, most likely. It would reduce their cap hit a LOT and not result in a crazy financial commitment for the team that obtained him.

I do think you will see more interest in Murray, Tagovailoa, Jones and some of the other veteran QB's this offseason because of some of the QB needy teams. Also, this is projected to be a tough QB class in the draft. Don't be shocked if there is a panicked run on these younger veterans.

Do the dolphins still have interest in Bryce? I wonder if we could get a 3rd for him lol

[PootieNunu]

Tua has been a better QB than Bryce and is being benched, lets hope we dont go down this road of handing Bryce a major extension and go ahead and replace the bust.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Ai is atrocious it said 79 million in dead money. I never trust a single thing that says AI generated. I hadn't had time to research it

Just look at OTC. It takes like 30 seconds.

Also, ESPN just covered this today.

As Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel openly mulls a quarterback change late in Tua Tagovailoa's disappointing season, here's the math on where things stand with Tagovailoa and the Dolphins. He has $54 million in fully guaranteed compensation in 2026. That breaks down as a $39 million salary and a $15 million option bonus that needs to be exercised between the first and third days of the 2026 league year in March. Additionally, on the third day of the 2026 league year, $3 million of his $31 million 2027 salary becomes fully guaranteed. So if he's on Miami's roster as of 4 p.m. ET on March 13, the Dolphins will be on the hook for $57 million guaranteed.

 

If they were to release him prior to that date, they'd still have to pay him the $54 million in 2026 cash and would absorb $99.2 million in dead salary cap charges. (They could spread that out over two years if they designated him a post-June 1 release, but they'd still take $67.4 million in dead money charges on their 2026 cap and the remaining $31.8 million in 2027.) If they were to find a way to trade Tagovailoa before March 13, the acquiring team would become responsible for the $54 million in 2026 salary and bonuses, and the Dolphins' dead-money charge would drop to $45.2 million. If they traded him after March 13, presumably they'd be on the hook for the $15 million option bonus, while the new team would take the $39 million salary; the Dolphins' dead-money charge would be $60.2 million.

 

None of this is even close to ideal, obviously, as it would leave Miami in a terrible cap situation and also without a quarterback. The Broncos took $80 million in dead-money charges (spread over two years) when they released Russell Wilson in 2024, and they managed to make the playoffs last season and currently hold the 1-seed in the AFC playoff field for this season. So huge dead-money charges don't necessarily kill a team's chances. But one of the reasons it has worked for Denver is it found a first-round QB in Bo Nix who could play right away.

 

If the Dolphins bench Tagovailoa this week, it'd be for either Zach Wilson or rookie Quinn Ewers, either of whom could theoretically be a 2026 starting option if they show enough in these remaining three weeks. But moving on from Tagovailoa would probably require the Dolphins to be players in that Mac Jones/Kyler Murray/etc. second-chance QB market if they want to compete next year. Not a great spot for whoever their next general manager turns out to be.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47324378/nfl-week-16-buzz-news-updates-fantasy-intel-questions-predictions#trades

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

They will try to trade him, most likely. It would reduce their cap hit a LOT and not result in a crazy financial commitment for the team that obtained him.

I do think you will see more interest in Murray, Tagovailoa, Jones and some of the other veteran QB's this offseason because of some of the QB needy teams. Also, this is projected to be a tough QB class in the draft. Don't be shocked if there is a panicked run on these younger veterans.

Oh I'm sure they'll try I'd just be floored of they find a taker.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This also essentially confirms the Dolphins will release Tua this offseason. They can save $47M by cutting him and that's not even with a post-June 1st designation.

And before anyone asks... hell no.

There are no savings. He is a cap nuker but the nuke can be kiloton and not megaton class if they do it the right way. Cutting him is 100% the megaton option.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Do the dolphins still have interest in Bryce? I wonder if we could get a 3rd for him lol

3rd???

What, a 2078 3rd??

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I don't know.  This makes it look like they don't net out positive until after 2026 with a post June 1st cut.

Yeah, that's my fault. We're so late into 2025 I'm already living in 2026. LOL

Oof, they're cooked. Wonder if they just eat that extra $11M or designate it post-June 1 and take two stiff jabs on the chin instead of a haymarker?

Good lord Panthers, please be paying attention to this

 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Oh I'm sure they'll try I'd just be floored of they find a taker.

I think Murray will draw significantly more interest because he doesn't have the injury worries that Tua always will have. But, I wouldn't be shocked to see a trade for both because I think this will be a more QB needy offseason than normal. There are several playoff caliber teams that are going to be in need of QB stability.