Bryce Young is the first Panthers QB to throw for 20+ touchdowns in a season since Cam Newton in 2018.

[mav1234]

7 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Sam got 2 years with DJ Moore, Cmac, and Robbie with a much healthier O-line.  Bryce best weapon thus far in his career is a rookie that runs a 4.6. Last year alone was better than anything Darnold did in Carolina 

You may want to go back and look at the roster, lol. Sam had 7 games with CMC in 2021 prior to his injury, and 1 season of 500 yards with Robbie (also in 2021). Robbie and CMC were both gone before Darnold started in 2022.

DJ is a great receiver but TMac is already arguably better.

Edit: Actually in 2021 Sam only had 4 games with CMC due to injuries they both had.

Edited 4 hours ago by mav1234

[Car123]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

People forget about Steve it happens. Been a long time. But I agree that hasn't happened yet.

As of right now Bryce is in the same neighborhood as Kerry Collins. 44 games for Bryce 45 games for Collins. Both with 47 touchdowns.

Bryce needs to win these next two games and increase the W/L ratio and then we can keep assessing.

^^^See

He didn’t mention that Kerry Collins had more interceptions than touchdowns here. This is how the haters mislead.

Bryce easily surpasses Kerry Collins.

[GoobyPls]

2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Lol...are you really trying to argue the o line with sam at qb was better?? And the fanbase hated robbie, cmac rarely played. 

Yep, its much better

 

Bryce just knows is how to avoid sacks at a much higher clip. Darnold is known for taking terrible sacks 

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

1000% and I'm addicted 

looking at just our opponents….last 5 weeks, Bryce isn’t playing better than a bunch of them.  Allen, Maye, Stafford, Trevor, Shough, Love.  How they are getting top 4 in the NFL is definitely clickbait.

[dep]

5 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Interesting to see folks say Darnold was horrible here because in 2022 this was his stat line:

Darnold 2022: 190.5 yard/game, 1.5 total TDs/game, 0.5 INTs/game, 8.2 Y/A, 92.6 rating, 4-2 as a starter.

Compare to..

Bryce 2025: 192.3 yard/game, 1.6 total TDs/game, 0.7 INTs/game, 6.5 Y/A, 88.4 rating, 8-6 as a starter. 

damn

[GoobyPls]

2 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

You may want to go back and look at the roster, lol. Sam had 7 games with CMC in 2021 prior to his injury, and 1 season of 500 yards with Robbie (also in 2021). Robbie and CMC were both gone before Darnold started in 2022.

DJ is a great receiver but TMac is already arguably better.

Robbie had 1000 yards with Teddy, not his fault Darnold was trash. And DJ is much better than Tmac. DJ actually can take a simple hitch route 50 yards, 

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, Car123 said:

^^^See

He didn’t mention that Kerry Collins had more interceptions than touchdowns here. This is how the haters mislead.

Bryce easily surpasses Kerry Collins.

Kerry Collins played in a different era and was also drunk….

he also made it to the NFCCG year 2 and Pro Bowl.  And was close to a .500 QB.  

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

looking at just our opponents….last 5 weeks, Bryce isn’t playing better than a bunch of them.  Allen, Maye, Stafford, Trevor, Shough, Love.  How they are getting top 4 in the NFL is definitely clickbait.

Pff!!!!!!11111!!!!1111

[jb2288]

36 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

That makes it even worse. There's no chance they can review each play with enough angles to give accurate grades 

This stuff is all automated man. Literal 1000s different points of data get loaded into an algo that outputs these metrics. That’s the whole point of PFF, taking a more data driven approach to show stats differently 

Edited 4 hours ago by jb2288

[mrcompletely11]

Imagine having to dig as deep to Robbie Anderson to defend Bryce even after a good game

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, Car123 said:

^^^See

He didn’t mention that Kerry Collins had more interceptions than touchdowns here. This is how the haters mislead.

Bryce easily surpasses Kerry Collins.

Collins biggest problems were his turnovers and being a POS. But the fact remains he had very similar production through the air with Bryce Young. And he still won more than Bryce with all those turnovers.

You see haters when you close your eyes bub. Grow up.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, frankw said:

Collins biggest problems were his turnovers and being a POS. But the fact remains he had very similar production through the air with Bryce Young. And he still won more than Bryce with all those turnovers.

You see haters when you close your eyes bub. Grow up.

On an expansion team

[mav1234]

Just now, GoobyPls said:

Robbie had 1000 yards with Teddy, not his fault Darnold was trash. And DJ is much better than Tmac. DJ actually can take a simple hitch route 50 yards, 

How many yards has Robbie had since his 1000 yard season? Lol. 

DJ is a different type of receiver but his time as a panther, he was only 1 yard more YAC/R than TMac has right now as a rookie, and he only had 1 season here with more Y/R than TMac has so far (2020).

[mav1234]

3 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

This stuff is all automated man. Literal 1000s different points of data get loaded into an algo that outputs these metrics. That’s the whole point of PFF, taking a more data driven approach to show stats differently 

That's not how PFF works. PFF is per-play graded. https://www.pff.com/grades