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Bryce Young is the worst QB in Panthers History

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33 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Bryce’s ceiling is replacement level.  I don’t know why it’s so hard for some to see.

Yeah but if we just get him an OL, RBs, more WRs, TEs and a defense, he can be really good, just give him another year. 

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We've seen one of the best/most dynamic offense in the league last year get neutered by bad QB play this year in the Vikings. You CANNOT field a decent offense with QB play as bad as Bryce and McCarthy. McCarthy has THE best WR duo in the game in Justin Jefferson and Addison, a beast of a TE, a dominant running game in Jones and Mason, and a QB whisperer in Kevin O Connell.......and he still couldn't do anything. Then you have QBs in MUCH WORSE situations than Bryce putting up better numbers in Ward, Brissett, Jaxson Dart, Shough, etc. 

I can't believe that excuses I hear for this dude weekly. "Oh, he didn't have a running game to help him". "Oh, his receivers weren't where they were supposed to be". "Oh, his defense allowed 20 points". OK?! That happens to ALL franchise QBs. It's like EVERY little thing has to be right for Bryce to have a chance to win. We drafted this fugger so we could overcome that more times than not and put his team on his back.

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4 minutes ago, strato said:

Chicken or the egg. The assignment is, MAKE them respect you and make them defend the whole field. 
They are telling you they don’t think you can do that. You have to force them to change. 
Our offense with Young is unable to do that. Just the way it is. Unless/until the passing game can extract payment, it will stay that way. 

Yes Young and most QBs need more than 19 rushing yards. Last week he poo the bed, this week our running game poo the bed. We have a lot of work as a team as a whole to work on. Can you point me to an average QB who won by playing better than Young did today while his team ran for under 20 yards?

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Just now, ForJimmy said:

Yes Young and most QBs need more than 19 rushing yards. Last week he poo the bed, this week our running game poo the bed. We have a lot of work as a team as a whole to work on. Can you point me to an average QB who won by playing better than Young did today while his team ran for under 20 yards?

This is simple. You get get more rushing yards by threatening people with passing the ball. 
If a team is so good that you can’t pass either, tip your hat.  Bryce be tipping that hat an awful lot. 

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3 minutes ago, acwimby24 said:

My mistake. I assumed that defenses wouldn’t respect the deep passing game enough to commit significant resources to defending against it. 

Yeah if you can play 2 high and shut down our running game we are going to struggle. Saints did that both times. We don’t have the talent to adjust to that.

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1 minute ago, strato said:

This is simple. You get get more rushing yards by threatening people with passing the ball. 
If a team is so good that you can’t pass either, tip your hat.  Bryce be tipping that hat an awful lot. 

Yeah our passing offense put up 250 yards and 2 TDs with absolutely no help from the running game. To me they did their part. There were a couple 3rd down drops as well which could fall on the QB but again this isn’t really the game to throw him under the bus. Last week was one 1000%. Bryce did enough to beat Tampa just like last time today. If we want to be elite defenses like Seattle then yeah we need to reevaluate our QB, play calling, OL, and weapons. 

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37 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, I can give you a tip.  Trying to run with Mr Scot’s whack bologna ways ain’t the way bruh.  But you seem to be pretty invested given you keep stealing him lines as yours lol. 
 

 
 

 

Funny that you would mention Mr. Scot. Are you the one that banned him for no reason?

Is that why you’re giving him a tip? 

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10 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah our passing offense put up 250 yards and 2 TDs with absolutely no help from the running game. To me they did their part. There were a couple 3rd down drops as well which could fall on the QB but again this isn’t really the game to throw him under the bus. Last week was one 1000%. Bryce did enough to beat Tampa just like last time today. If we want to be elite defenses like Seattle then yeah we need to reevaluate our QB, play calling, OL, and weapons. 

I am not going on one game. It isn’t this *one*. We are at the end of the third season of trying to make this guy a viable cornerstone moving forward. I say it has failed.

Have I been rooting for it to fail? Somewhat. Because I had no belief from the jump. But was forced to accept three years as an evaluation period. And there isn’t enough there, still, to turn me around. Sorry. 

Could I have been transformed into a supporter? It would take actual really good results. What we were presented with fell short. 

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2 minutes ago, strato said:

I am not going on one game. It isn’t this *one*. We are at the end of the third season of trying to make this guy a viable cornerstone moving forward. I say it has failed.

Have I been rooting for it to fail? Somewhat. Because I had no belief from the jump. But was forced to accept three years as an evaluation period. And there isn’t enough there, still, to turn me around. Sorry. 

Could I have been transformed into a supporter? It would take actual really good results. What we were presented with fell short. 

Yeah him not being the guy is a logical stance to take in a debate. I have no problem with that. Blaming him for this loss immediately when he was the lesser of many other issues is all I was debating. 

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1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

He had an 8 figure reason not to.

Hmm. poo coach, doesn't want to do his job because he didn't get his way, not enough balls to stand up for himself, refuses to try.

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11 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah him not being the guy is a logical stance to take in a debate. I have no problem with that. Blaming him for this loss immediately when he was the lesser of many other issues is all I was debating. 

I think there is a lot of stuff blended into the reaction. The game itself and what it meant, surely. 
For me, it is the closure of third year of this ill fated experiment trying to prove a historically inferior player profile could defy the odds. 
I never believed it could. It hasn’t, so far.

How fuging far are we expected to take this? 

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