Canales' O - Year 2

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, cranky said:

I am not argueing about the facts. They are all correct and there will be plenty of time to bitch about them after the season is over. I just assumed people would want to enjoy the week regardless of how they got there. 

Who says we're not?

[cranky]

7 minutes ago, CRA said:

Canales isn’t being trashed in this thread.  There are compliments and critiques.   

where we stand at the conclusion of year 2 is just elementary and normal football talk…and  a we now have finalized season to take it in. 

it’s also relevant as we look to the postseason.  It’s the whole look at yourself in the mirror and think of how are you going to try to find a close game.  It’s going to take an ugly game.  We got to make it ugly. 

We win the NFC South and you post about how bad the offense is. I'm not argueing that you aren't correct with the numbers. I just don't understand why you can't wait until after the playoffs to bring all of that up. There will be plenty of time in the offseason.

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

TOP is the stat to look at.  We run a sloooowww plodding offense.  It’s not good, but better than the stats indicate, we went from 31rst to 19th.  Just like the best years under rivera, SLOOOWWW plodding offense giving fewer opportunities to the oppenent was the saving grace. why do you think we went for it on 4th so much.

As shown here with 2025 vs a 2013 team….slow and plodding is fine.  But you need to be like 2013.  Not 2025.  2013 we were good when we went about it.   Scoring %.  TO%.  3rd down % and redzone %.  

[cranky]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Who says we're not?

I guess I stand corrected. You are enjoying yourself as you whine about how bad the offense is. 

Sorry. My bad.

[CRA]

8 minutes ago, cranky said:

We win the NFC South and you post about how bad the offense is. I'm not argueing that you aren't correct with the numbers. I just don't understand why you can't wait until after the playoffs to bring all of that up. There will be plenty of time in the offseason.

I simply posted the year end final stats.  At the years end.  Playoffs are always viewed as a next chapter.  Which is why the stats are also separated. 

and it’s relevant to how we now have to go about finding a way to compete…as we all guess the right strategy that should be used on Saturday.   And it will be relevant after that. 

don’t participate in this thread then bro.  It’s that easy.   Go do Rams only talk or whatever your preference is 

[electro's horse]

7 minutes ago, cranky said:

I guess I stand corrected. You are enjoying yourself as you whine about how bad the offense is. 

Sorry. My bad.

It is so embarrassing how insecure you are. 

[ColumbusCounty]

Well to be honest...

2025: Offense ranked bottom 20's. 

2024: Offense ranked bottom 20's.

2023: Dan on Tampa ranked 23rd (Ours 32)

2022: Bottom 20's 

2021: Ranked 30th

2020: Ranked 21st

2019: 19th

2018: 10th

2017: 19th

2016: 19th

2015: 11th

In the last decade + we've had a good offense statistically twice.. Thing is, I don't see a way out of that trend either. Atleast not with our current combo at QB/HC. Wish we would have grabbed Kellen Moore at OC back when. 

My best case scenario: Another good draft + FA QB ..i.e Winston, another WR (speed and can run routes), a reliable TE (Olsen-lite like), and a new OC. We could probably sustain the teens with just that and a healthy oline. 

[CRA]

11 minutes ago, cranky said:

I guess I stand corrected. You are enjoying yourself as you whine about how bad the offense is. 

Sorry. My bad.

You are in here whining about people talking about Dave’s year 2 O in review.   

 

[Carolina Cajun]

15 minutes ago, CRA said:

As shown here with 2025 vs a 2013 team….slow and plodding is fine.  But you need to be like 2013.  Not 2025.  2013 we were good when we went about it.   Scoring %.  TO%.  3rd down % and redzone %.  

Oh I agree...I mean, when slow and plodding doesnt work, it looks fuging god damned awful.  its why were like -7 billion in point margin. If you are slow and plodding, yet you go 3 and out over and over, or worse yet (like we did against the pats) just give up points off turnovers or special teams, it gets SUPER UGLY, SUUUUUUUUPER quick. Its as much as an indictment on bryce young who cant be relied on to run a fast paced offense as it is on evero who legit just NEVER will get off of the field on 3rd down.

[CRA]

1 minute ago, Carolina Cajun said:

Oh I agree...I mean, when slow and plodding doesnt work, it looks fuging god damned awful.  its why were like -7 billion in point margin. If you are slow and plodding, yet you go 3 and out over and over, or worse yet (like we did against the pats) just give up points off turnovers or special teams, it gets SUPER UGLY, SUUUUUUUUPER quick. Its as much as an indictment on bryce young who cant be relied on to run a fast paced offense as it is on evero who legit just NEVER will get off of the field on 3rd down.

Evero’s defense is best defined by that Baker INT.    It’s literally just wanting a QB to be dumb as they get tired of slowly picking it.  

[cranky]

Just now, electro's horse said:

It is so embarrassing how insecure you are. 

Says the person who calls me a "fugin dumbass" and "dipshit" simply because I do not agree with him.

[cranky]

7 minutes ago, CRA said:

You are in here whining about people talking about Dave’s year 2 O in review.   

 

I didn't start the post - you did. I just questioned why.

[The Lobo]

I do think going for it all the time on fourth and having a ton of success doing it is under appreciated. I don’t see too many talking about it, not necessarily on here but on espn and such. Dave should get credit for that I think.  

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Evero’s defense is best defined by that Baker INT.    It’s literally just wanting a QB to be dumb as they get tired of slowly picking it.  

It’s a bend don’t break strategy. Good offenses can pick it apart but he has been working with a deficit in defensive talent in his defense. Regardless Evero is a FA after this season.