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Bryce Young NFL NGS Throwing Breakdown '23-'25

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Just now, Moonraker said:

Regardless of stats or the reason why, our inability or unwillingness to attack the middle of the field is the reason our offense is so stale most of the time (in my opinion). We are so limited in options that it makes us predictable. We are always throwing boundary passes with no real opportunity for YAC.

The reason why has been obvious for 3 years to everyone but the team and his stans 

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2 minutes ago, Moonraker said:

Regardless of stats or the reason why, our inability or unwillingness to attack the middle of the field is the reason our offense is so stale most of the time (in my opinion). We are so limited in options that it makes us predictable. We are always throwing boundary passes with no real opportunity for YAC.

NFL NGS does put those in zones. I can tally the percentages of Left Middle Right and see if we do target those areas more. I am not sure if that would give a lot of info without having access to league averages, though. 

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3 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Usually the most important throws a QB needs to make is the intermediate throws (10-20). Bryce is apparently very awful at throwing to routes that fall in that range...

Just crazy that 2/3 of Bryce's throws have been less than 10 yards this year. That might be worse than checkdown Teddy when we had him

fug it. I got a little time to kill, I will do a breakdown of Teddy's 2020 season here.

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1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

Don’t compare it, it’s too frustrating. 

I can't currently but I will. NFL NGS is glitching hard on pre-2022 data at the moment.

2 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Can you do college too? 

I don't think there is an NFL NGS equivalent for college that I am aware of.

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2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

We really need to dig in to Bryce’s performances against McNeese state to prove he can throw deep. 

The thing that should worry people is that in very different offenses(2023 and 2024/2025), Bryce has performed eerily similar.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

The thing that should worry people is that in very different offenses(2023 and 2024/2025), Bryce has performed eerily similar.

Yeah cause he sucks 

but let’s wait two more years and throw more resources at the problem in the hopes he can become a top 20 qb.

in sure we’ll keep winning all those 3 point games in perpetuity 

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4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I can't currently but I will. NFL NGS is glitching hard on pre-2022 data at the moment.

I don't think there is an NFL NGS equivalent for college that I am aware of.

Need you to do a NFL NGS and S2 score correlation so we can show Tepper to never do something as dumb as think a biased cognitive football test should be our top factor in drafting a QB...

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16 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I thought about doing a breakdown of Teddy to see how it compares, especially since he was SKEWERED while he was here.

I'm guessing more 1-10 and more over the middle since he could see it. Probably better in thr 10-20 range but not much past that. Teddy knew who he was. 

The 2020 offense was rough from what I remember. Those idiots brought him in and then asked him to go deep. It's like they didn't bother to do any actual research past a 30 second video and looking at stats. 

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44 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Interesting Tidbits

- 2025 marked a career low in 20+ yard attempts downfield, at 2.13/GM.

- In his career, a whopping 60%(18 total) of Bryce's INT's are in the intermediate(10-20 yard) range, making that overwhelmingly the worst performing area of his career.

- A massive 67.57% of Bryce's season attempts were 10 yards or less.

 

Intermediate has been a notable problem in his game, particularly at the perimeter against zone. His clean pocket passes don’t have the velocity you want so DBs can play off and catch back up for the pick (2 of his last 3 ints from that very instance).

A pro-QB needs to be able to hit those passes quickly, with enough velocity to get the guy open in space. He can’t hit it quick enough to a guy to give him space against zone. So you really can’t play the diverse short/intermediate game where he methodically takes a team down field consistently.

Now, I’m sure there are some instances where he’s managed; but most of the time those perimeter intermediate are either wildly inaccurate or floaters. The field sideline-to-sideline just feels so huge with him playing. 

He can surprisingly work the middle of the field okay because he’ll move in pocket (or out) until the sight lane is found — but his tools don’t allow him to hit a clean 5 step drop with zip to an X or flanker in that range. It’s why some of his best work has been post 2 seconds hitting a crosser to Coker this year or Tmac on a deeper mesh.  

This is also why I absolutely do not see the Brees comps as much as people like to make parallels.

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