Someone's not gonna be happy

[electro's horse]

7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

 

The "no better options" for a $26.5 mil price tag is wild to me. Even in 2027 that is likely to be top 20-25 money at QB. Why in the world would anyone want to pay that for a backup caliber QB???

 

Imagine making the argument for equivalent production at any other position.

Like I said, these people don’t watch other nfl games and just absorb and regurgitate ESPN. Just perfect little brains in perfect little jars. 

Edited 22 hours ago by electro's horse

[CRA]

1 hour ago, cranky said:

It never fails. Everytime I bring up Young in a post, the three amigos ( electro's horse, mrcompletely11 and CRA. ) always show up.

electro never says anything related to the post, mrcompletely just says "look how good electro sounds" and CRA never says anything new. 

Responding to any of them is just a waste of time.

You post about water, people say it's wet.  You complain.   Rinse and repeat. 

[cranky]

20 minutes ago, strato said:

If you want to take it that way, feel free. Just kidding you, you know what I think of it. 

It's all good. I can disagree with you but still respect your opinion. 

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Imagine making the argument for equivalent production at any other position.

Like I said, these people don’t watch other nfl games and just absorb and regurgitate ESPN. Just perfect little brains in perfect little jars. 

I do think this place suffers from being very myopic. I am lucky enough to usually get to watch most NFL games, hence why I constantly point out that there legitimately have been several QB's make starts this NFL season that are worse than Bryce.

But it was also clear that Bryce is in the bottom 20% of that overall group.

[strato]

FTR I would agree, though with little enthusiasm, to Young being here for his fourth year as an audition for an extension. Or to enter the ‘27 FA market, without that 5th year. 
But people say that can’t happen. He is under contract, so I disagree, but I am overruled by the consensus opinion. 
 

He gets 12 mil for ‘26. If you pick up that 5th and 26.5 is accurate, you are looking at 19 plus mil per season for two years.  
 

What could we get for two years for that money should be a bigger question. 

Edited 21 hours ago by strato

[DJ feed me moore]

go win a superbowl and he can have 250 million idc

[PNW_PantherMan]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I do think this place suffers from being very myopic. I am lucky enough to usually get to watch most NFL games, hence why I constantly point out that there legitimately have been several QB's make starts this NFL season that are worse than Bryce.

But it was also clear that Bryce is in the bottom 20% of that overall group.

The 2025 "Thank you for not being JJ McCarthy" Player of the Year Award

[Navy_football]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I do think this place suffers from being very myopic. I am lucky enough to usually get to watch most NFL games, hence why I constantly point out that there legitimately have been several QB's make starts this NFL season that are worse than Bryce.

But it was also clear that Bryce is in the bottom 20% of that overall group.

I watch quite a few games too, so hear you on that. 

Question for you... Do you think Bryce would be better if he took more shots downfield, or do you think he wouldn't be able to pull it off because of limitations?

[cranky]

17 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We went 7-3 in one score games. It's not very likely we will be able to be that lucky in those sort of matchups. Possible but not likely.

It's impossible to make much of a prediction for next season at this juncture but it wouldn't be a shock to see a step backwards depending on the outcome of the offseason. Also, that schedule projection is tough.

The "no better options" for a $26.5 mil price tag is wild to me. Even in 2027 that is likely to be top 20-25 money at QB. Why in the world would anyone want to pay that for a backup caliber QB???

 

The trick is to not have as many one score games next year. Replacing XL with Coker and TMac having more experience will help with that.

[coffee]

24 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's fine in theory but while we played whack a mole at QB, the entire roster kept getting worse and so did the QB. Just because the roster is bad doesn't mean you just give up with a bad QB.

Well, quite frankly, yours is a fine theory as well except that we are no longer getting worse as a team.  Quite the opposite.  And we would've been MUCH better off if we'd spent the resources on a better team than on yet another QB.

If you go back to almost any recent QB and do the math in your head, we'd be a better team with that QB and having spent the resources on the team around him.

 

How would you like to have, say, Baker Mayfield as our QB, CMC as our RB, and Brock Bowers as our TE?  That's the type thing we've given up by listening to everyone say we need to move to yet another QB.

[strato]

1 minute ago, cranky said:

The trick is to not have as many one score games next year. Replacing XL with Coker and TMac having more experience will help with that.

Having a ceiling on what the offense can generate is for sure why we end up only one score ahead in some of these games.  
But I am thinking the QB play needs to be better as a larger factor than the WRs having more experience, to make a leap. 

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, strato said:

FTR I would agree, though with little enthusiasm, to Young being here for his fourth year as an audition for an extension. Or to enter the ‘27 FA market, without that 5th year. 
But people say that can’t happen. He is under contract, so I disagree, but I am overruled by the consensus opinion. 
 

He gets 12 mil for ‘26. If you pick up that 5th and 26.5 is accurate, you are looking at 19 plus mil per season for two years.  
 

What could we get for two years for that money should be a bigger question. 

$19 mil AAV would be the sub-franchise QB tier. That would be the 20th largest QB salary.

The QB's in the category feature a LOT of better QB's than Bryce(not including rookie deals).

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

The 2025 "Thank you for not being JJ McCarthy" Player of the Year Award

Or Dillion Gabriel or Justin Fields or Shadur Sanders or Spencer Rattler or Carson Wentz or Brady Cook or....

[Navy_football]

1 minute ago, coffee said:

Well, quite frankly, yours is a fine theory as well except that we are no longer getting worse as a team.  Quite the opposite.  And we would've been MUCH better off if we'd spent the resources on a better team than on yet another QB.

If you go back to almost any recent QB and do the math in your head, we'd be a better team with that QB and having spent the resources on the team around him.

 

How would you like to have, say, Baker Mayfield as our QB, CMC as our RB, and Brock Bowers as our TE?  That's the type thing we've given up by listening to everyone say we need to move to yet another QB.

Not to mention DJ Moore at WR, probably Jalen Carter instead of moving up to get BY (he would have fallen right in our laps - Carter and Derrick Brown, damn!), anyone but Mingo since we'd still have DJ. Not sure CMC would be here. That wasn't a move for a QB. But not giving up draft picks for Sam Darnold too. 

You can't get into the habit of switching QBs like that. It could take a decade before you find the guy. And another 5-10 years to rebuild the rest of the team because of what you gave up to get them. Build the team, then get the QB. Sure, take a flyer on a day 2/3 guy in the draft or a FA as a project. But changing QBs, HCs and GMs every year or so is not a recipe for success.