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8 hours ago, DeadpoolPanther said:

I think Indiana will win it all but Miami should give them a much better fight than Oregon did.

About the only chance they have is with that OL and running the ball. Beck is a subpar QB in terms of the "elite" class of QB's, even though he has been in college for 24 years.

Line is at -7.5 so Vegas also isn't a believer. 

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

About the only chance they have is with that OL and running the ball. Beck is a subpar QB in terms of the "elite" class of QB's, even though he has been in college for 24 years.

Line is at -7.5 so Vegas also isn't a believer. 

Yep, they're gonna have to dominate the trenches on both sides of the ball if they're going to compete. They basically ran a Bryce Young offense against Ole Miss and just leaned on the run and didn't have Beck throw much beyond the LOS. That's their recipe for success. 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep, they're gonna have to dominate the trenches on both sides of the ball if they're going to compete. They basically ran a Bryce Young offense against Ole Miss and just leaned on the run and didn't have Beck throw much beyond the LOS. That's their recipe for success. 

IU is a better defensive team than Ole Miss too. 

The Hoosiers are about as dominant of a team as I have seen in a long, long time.

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22 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

IU is a better defensive team than Ole Miss too. 

The Hoosiers are about as dominant of a team as I have seen in a long, long time.

IU is the most well coached team I have ever seen. They are meticulous and don't make stupid mistakes. Cignetti is a mad man and I think all he does outside of football is watch tape and he will exploit any weakness in the other team. I am curious why Saban never let him be more than a WR coach at Alabama.  He had to go on his own and coach at Division 2 IUP to get his shot as a HC and has won everywhere since. In the championship game at IU in his second year. He is also a great evaluator of talent. He is able to find guys know one else is looking at and turn them into studs.

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

About the only chance they have is with that OL and running the ball. Beck is a subpar QB in terms of the "elite" class of QB's, even though he has been in college for 24 years.

Line is at -7.5 so Vegas also isn't a believer. 

I see you're continuing to hate on Carson Beck, even though he just led his team to the biggest stage of the sport.

Not saying Beck is elite today, but he has elite measurables, he's been through some things, still has high upside, and, unlike Kirby Smart, Mario Cristobal put him into a better situation to succeed by asking Beck to do less. I mean, he's still learning and needs to certainly clean up some of his footwork, but that's not unlike many college QBs. Beck has done less, but has done more when he has needed to, and that's a big reason why Miami has the opportunity to win a chip. 

As for Miami, they appear to have a  monumental task. Fernando Mendoza looks like the real deal, and their D looks like it is on a mission, but Miami's O-line is simply hard to handle for 60 minutes, and I'd say that Malachi Toney and Keelan Marion, along with other good talent at the skill positions, including Beck, aren't going to be pushed over by the Hoosier D.

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14 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I see you're continuing to hate on Carson Beck, even though he just led his team to the biggest stage of the sport.

Not saying Beck is elite today, but he has elite measurables, he's been through some things, still has high upside, and, unlike Kirby Smart, Mario Cristobal put him into a better situation to succeed by asking Beck to do less. I mean, he's still learning and needs to certainly clean up some of his footwork, but that's not unlike many college QBs. Beck has done less, but has done more when he has needed to, and that's a big reason why Miami has the opportunity to win a chip. 

As for Miami, they appear to have a  monumental task. Fernando Mendoza looks like the real deal, and their D looks like it is on a mission, but Miami's O-line is simply hard to handle for 60 minutes, and I'd say that Malachi Toney and Keelan Marion, along with other good talent at the skill positions, including Beck, aren't going to be pushed over by the Hoosier D.

I don't hate him, I just don't believe he is an elite player at all. 

I agree that Cristobal is a far better coach than Smart.

Miami definitely has the better weapons but they are not the better team.

I would be fairly shocked if they can keep it within 2 scores.

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40 minutes ago, Pazhoosier89 said:

IU is the most well coached team I have ever seen. They are meticulous and don't make stupid mistakes. Cignetti is a mad man and I think all he does outside of football is watch tape and he will exploit any weakness in the other team. I am curious why Saban never let him be more than a WR coach at Alabama.  He had to go on his own and coach at Division 2 IUP to get his shot as a HC and has won everywhere since. In the championship game at IU in his second year. He is also a great evaluator of talent. He is able to find guys know one else is looking at and turn them into studs.

If it wasn't for age, Cignetti would be getting NFL looks.

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Not that it means a lot, but  Miami handled Ohio State much easier than Indiana did.   I believe that is their only common opponent.  

Both of Indiana's cfp opponents had early costly mistakes.  If Miami can avoid those, then they have a shot.  If not, it will likely be a long night for them.   

 

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7 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Not that it means a lot, but  Miami handled Ohio State much easier than Indiana did.   I believe that is their only common opponent.  

Both of Indiana's cfp opponents had early costly mistakes.  If Miami can avoid those, then they have a shot.  If not, it will likely be a long night for them.   

 

Miami also doesn't have an elite performing secondary and is extremely banged up. That isn't a recipe for success against an otherworldly QB.

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