Draft Taylen Green

[Lame Duck]

Dude plays well below his 40 time and dink and dunk QB.

[Jon Snow]

35 minutes ago, strato said:

Well, we will see. I would almost guarantee he will not be signing with the Panthers. Opinion. 
 

For discussion, what impressive vets? Cousins? Rodgers? People would have to trade for Mac Jones. 

Daniel Jones… Achilles? That is a scary thing.  

I read some speculation on Stroud maybe moving on because Houston loves their backup. Long shot.

Bears holding onto Bagent, Johnson loves him. 

Tua for a starting job somewhere? I’d rather try Willis. 
 

Surely I have missed a couple of guys. There is talk about David Carr coming back. 

 

Who said impressive? I just reported what Shefter said. Willis will not command as much as you think. The problem will be how strongly Green Bay will want to hang onto him. He obviously has no chance to start there and if GB wants to move on from Love it will not be with Willis. Willis is a long way from being a full time starter and highly doubt he has franchise qb in him. But he is young and can win you some games in a pinch. 

[Basbear]

10 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Who said impressive? I just reported what Shefter said. Willis will not command as much as you think. The problem will be how strongly Green Bay will want to hang onto him. He obviously has no chance to start there and if GB wants to move on from Love it will not be with Willis. Willis is a long way from being a full time starter and highly doubt he has franchise qb in him. But he is young and can win you some games in a pinch. 

Forgive me and all, I think I seen rapport talk about Willis market will be 30+, which is insane. He said many teams are interested and he impressed with his play last yr. I cannot believe some team is going to give 35 per year along with 50 in guarantees. Just hit the market at the right time, the draft sucks after the top guy and current FA looks poor given Jones is with Indy...it was just leave Willis......*tua, Watson, Murray, smith, cousins, _______ should be ava tho...but teams seem down on half of them, even as min type of deal. medical wise tua should retire, cuzins haaaassss to be showing his age soon, right?? Watson, when was his last NFL pass in a game; 2-3 years ago??

[ClawOn]

1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I want someone who can push Young. Camp doesn't need to be an open competition, but it doesn't need to be a closed one either. If another QB comes in and blows the doors off camp and betters Young, he deserves a chance to be the starting QB. We shouldn't avoid picking up another QB because we're afraid he might unseat our number 1 overall. Always look to improve. 

Exactly. You can't be serious about churning the bottom of the roster without including the QB position. 

[Basbear]

this is the QB to target, trust me-

[Mistuh Jones]

We could just trade a pb&j for anthony Richardson 

[strato]

1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Im not even after a token guy at this point. Bryce is 1a, <insert name> is 1b. We don't have a definitive starting QB for the next 5 years. We need to be using all available QB roster spots to look. 2 I would like to see are Howell and Levis if he becomes available. Both have the tools, just make boneheaded mistakes. The same can be said of Darnold and he just got a ring as the starting QB that limited bone headed mistakes. If they don't work out, no harm done. We gave them an opportunity, and it didn't work out.

I'm out on guys like Tua, Murray and Cousins. We know what they are and they're not the future. It's time to start getting aggressive about solving our QB problem and not just by throwing picks to move up and pray. Once we have our franchise guy for the next 5 years, then we can ease off the search. Until then, hammer down. 

I intended token to apply to his rookie year. Just beat Somebody out. Call it a competition. I hated that he was just handed the job I thought it set a bad precedent. 

I think we’re fairly aligned otherwise. 

[Jon Snow]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Forgive me and all, I think I seen rapport talk about Willis market will be 30+, which is insane. He said many teams are interested and he impressed with his play last yr. I cannot believe some team is going to give 35 per year along with 50 in guarantees. Just hit the market at the right time, the draft sucks after the top guy and current FA looks poor given Jones is with Indy...it was just leave Willis......*tua, Watson, Murray, smith, cousins, _______ should be ava tho...but teams seem down on half of them, even as min type of deal. medical wise tua should retire, cuzins haaaassss to be showing his age soon, right?? Watson, when was his last NFL pass in a game; 2-3 years ago??

Thats not going to happen. No way.

[strato]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

Who said impressive? I just reported what Shefter said. Willis will not command as much as you think. The problem will be how strongly Green Bay will want to hang onto him. He obviously has no chance to start there and if GB wants to move on from Love it will not be with Willis. Willis is a long way from being a full time starter and highly doubt he has franchise qb in him. But he is young and can win you some games in a pinch. 

Maybe I should have used a different word and saved that for me. I want someone that has something impressive about them. 
Someone that has potential to supplant a guy who is producing 25th best type of numbers. 22nd, 27th all that bottom third neighborhood. 
I don’t know where that will come from it just can’t be from even a 4th round pick this year IMO. Unless FA is crazy productive. 
 

I’ll give Bryce a better than bottom rating for his playoff game. Well above low twenties. But at least half of his games were bottom third level. Probably 2/3 to 3/4 of them were. 

[Jon Snow]

6 minutes ago, strato said:

Maybe I should have used a different word and saved that for me. I want someone that has something impressive about them. 
Someone that has potential to supplant a guy who is producing 25th best type of numbers. 22nd, 27th all that bottom third neighborhood. 
I don’t know where that will come from it just can’t be from even a 4th round pick this year IMO. Unless FA is crazy productive. 
 

I’ll give Bryce a better than bottom rating for his playoff game. Well above low twenties. But at least half of his games were bottom third level. Probably 2/3 to 3/4 of them were. 

Bryce will be permanently replaced by a draft pick. There's not another Sam Darnold out there to save us. Tepper is going to see this throw because he dumped Mayfield and Darnold too soon. He's going to give it 1 more year before he will sign off on dumping another 1st round pick qb. Thats the cold hard truth of it. It doesn't mean we can't get younger and much better at the backup position. 

Edited 2 minutes ago by Jon Snow