We signed Devin Lloyd ILB

[KatsAzz]

Thumbs up to a great signing of a player we really needed.

[HeelsPanthersCanes]

6 minutes ago, strato said:

You use the word primarily, did anyone actually make that claim?To say it wasn’t a factor, would be less than realistic. And then who is lying to themselves?  

I read your "big impression on people" as a primary factor.

Like I said, I'm glad we did something and if it works out it will be worth every penny. 

But on simple prior on field value, we significantly overpaid for Phillips.  I'm not as worried about Lloyd's deal as it's easy to get out of in two years if he isn't what we paid for.  But it does worry me his former team didn't want to pick up his fifth year option coming off a stellar 2025 for him.

We shall see.

[HeelsPanthersCanes]

8 minutes ago, frankw said:

Phillips took a steep overpay that any other human in his shoes would have signed. But he is undoubtedly very talented.

Lloyd looks to be a situation of he quickly realized the value of himself in his and his agents eyes did not align with the rest of the league based on the sample size. I mean when your top suitors are the mess that is the Bengals and the Panthers that doesn't make it a very difficult decision.

Agree on all this. 

[PootieNunu]

15 minutes ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

I read your "big impression on people" as a primary factor.

Like I said, I'm glad we did something and if it works out it will be worth every penny. 

But on simple prior on field value, we significantly overpaid for Phillips.  I'm not as worried about Lloyd's deal as it's easy to get out of in two years if he isn't what we paid for.  But it does worry me his former team didn't want to pick up his fifth year option coming off a stellar 2025 for him.

We shall see.

The deadline for picking up 5th year options is before season 4, not after.

 

[strato]

18 minutes ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

I read your "big impression on people" as a primary factor.

Like I said, I'm glad we did something and if it works out it will be worth every penny. 

But on simple prior on field value, we significantly overpaid for Phillips.  I'm not as worried about Lloyd's deal as it's easy to get out of in two years if he isn't what we paid for.  But it does worry me his former team didn't want to pick up his fifth year option coming off a stellar 2025 for him.

We shall see.

I am a little worried over the signing. Health concerns mostly. 
I think the people that grade it poorly are focusing on sacks as their bar. 
His pressure rates were just outstanding. That can lead to poor decisions being made. Bad throws. Sacks by teammates. 
 

I won’t pretend there is no overpay but the guy could have taken less to stay and still been set for life. Maybe he doesn’t think their SB window is still open now, and he might be right. Maybe he thinks there is a bright future for the Panthers. I don’t know. I would think that has some part in it.

Parse the words in primarily, I guess, but the phrase “big impression on people”, it is just a true statement. Meaning what it said on its face. I saw so much on twitter and media in the aftermath of that game that told me people took notice. For a lot of them it changed their perception of the Panthers. 

PS the money is what it is. Parsons is getting 47 per year. Lots of guys get 30 or will get 30 moving forward. 
Colts paid nearly that for 47 receptions and right at 1000 yards. Under 60 yards per game average. 
poo is changing in two years it won’t really be noteworthy. 

Edited 7 hours ago by strato

[HeelsPanthersCanes]

3 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

The deadline for picking up 5th year options is before season 4, not after.

 

Thanks for the education on that, wasn't aware of this. 

Seems odd and counterintuitive, but in Lloyds case I guess that worked to our advantage. 

[PootieNunu]

3 minutes ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

Thanks for the education on that, wasn't aware of this. 

Seems odd and counterintuitive, but in Lloyds case I guess that worked to our advantage. 

Yeah that's why we are stuck with Ickys fifth year cap hit this season because we picked it up last offseason. 

[strato]

9 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Yeah that's why we are stuck with Ickys fifth year cap hit this season because we picked it up last offseason. 

Yep and when he got hurt the chance to reduce it in a new contract was diminished if not just gone altogether.  
 

They were not probably not going to be on the hook for 17.5 mil this season if they extended. 

[CPantherKing]

The defense has their legit green dot now. Trading down for Kyle Hamilton, Devin Lloyd, or George Karlaftis and getting Zach Tom to play OT was what I wanted in 2022. Better late than never on the defensive side.

[strato]

This guy is on my feed and put this up on Lloyd. I thought it was a good watch and might make people feel better about his coverage. It did me. There was some criticism of it pre signing. 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by strato