BREAKING!!! Panthers signing Packers LT Rasheed Walker

[frankw]

2 hours ago, ECHornet said:

Have you noticed a change in our competitiveness since we pumped money into our OL? 

The OL has certainly been better than the trainwreck it was three or four years ago.

As far as competitiveness let's apply some realism and clarity here. Quite a bit of the competitiveness in 2025 came from the defensive side of the ball which gave up the most points in league history the year before and was one of the bottom 5 units in terms of salary cap allocation for 2025 while the OL was top 3.

We had the 26th passing offense last year. And if not for a herculean couple of games from Rico Dowdle we don't back our way into the division title or make the playoffs because we went 4-6 in our final ten games including being swept by the Saints who were starting a rookie 2nd round pick most of us mercilessly mocked when they selected him.

In conclusion yes we've seen a difference. The question now is will the investment pay off the way we want. But the only way that happens is if we field a top 15 offense. If we can't even crack the top 20 then there need to be some very warm seats across the board. And I would hope just about anyone here should agree with that.

[strato]

Bryce has had a couple of games where he top fifteened it.  
 

Realize, to be close to top ten he has to do that 4 quarters, probably 15 times with a couple of stinkers thrown in where he is off that day. The good ones, almost all have inexplicable bad days. But overall you have to perform at a high level, dependably, to rate high like that. 
 

So that’s what it takes. Otherwise it is a low to mid 20s and people that just can’t do better after a few chances are backups. 
 

 

[HardcoreHokie]

3 hours ago, ECHornet said:

I think Bryce is about to become a top 10-15 QB for the next decade.

List your Top 10 youngish QB’s, including college guys, and include Bryce in there with a straight face.

Josh, Lamar, Drake, Burrow, Mahomes, Jayden, Herbert, CJ, Caleb, Trevor, Love, Purdy, Nix, Hurts, Goff, Baker, Sam, Dak, Mendoza……..

Bryce Young isn’t a top 20 quarterback right now and certainly won’t be top-10 in 10 years.  I sure hope our front office is smarter than that.

[mrcompletely11]

41 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

List your Top 10 youngish QB’s, including college guys, and include Bryce in there with a straight face.

Josh, Lamar, Drake, Burrow, Mahomes, Jayden, Herbert, CJ, Caleb, Trevor, Love, Purdy, Nix, Hurts, Goff, Baker, Sam, Dak, Mendoza……..

Bryce Young isn’t a top 20 quarterback right now and certainly won’t be top-10 in 10 years.  I sure hope our front office is smarter than that.

[csx]

10 hours ago, frankw said:

At the end of the day we were always walking a tightrope with the OL we were amongst the top 3 or 4 paid units in the league even before Icky got hurt. Injuries are very unfortunate but they are going to happen to any team. And besides even if he hadn't gotten hurt we would have given him a contract extension and we would still have the highest paid OL in the league right now. That's why we should have been addressing the OL in the draft more. I hope to see us begin that approach with the upcoming draft.

Fantastic. There is nothing whatsoever wrong with prioritizing OL. Its about time.

[Stuart Smith]

17 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

There's a very good chance Ikey has played his last snap for us 

I thought about that too. You never know. 

[ECHornet]

2 hours ago, HardcoreHokie said:

List your Top 10 youngish QB’s, including college guys, and include Bryce in there with a straight face.

Josh, Lamar, Drake, Burrow, Mahomes, Jayden, Herbert, CJ, Caleb, Trevor, Love, Purdy, Nix, Hurts, Goff, Baker, Sam, Dak, Mendoza……..

Bryce Young isn’t a top 20 quarterback right now and certainly won’t be top-10 in 10 years.  I sure hope our front office is smarter than that.

You wouldn’t have guys like Trevor or Darnold on this list if you made it a year or two ago. What happened? They matured in the league and know how to successfully operate an offense now. Bryce is approaching that now and we’re actually surrounding him with talent. He’s been better each year. We did him no favors his first two years here, be it terrible coaching or lack of talent. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

From what I have heard about him is that he had a better pass blocking grade while Icky had a better run blocking grade.  IMO it is far easier to be a better run blocker than pass blocking.  I also think he'll be fine with our Oline.  

[strato]

38 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

You wouldn’t have guys like Trevor or Darnold on this list if you made it a year or two ago. What happened? They matured in the league and know how to successfully operate an offense now. Bryce is approaching that now and we’re actually surrounding him with talent. He’s been better each year. We did him no favors his first two years here, be it terrible coaching or lack of talent. 

How many high level passing games did he produce last season? What is your number? 
I am going to say it wasn’t enough using my standards, and was a low enough number that he needs to more than double it. 
 
I’d just be curious to see what your baseline is. I might be able to hold up 5 fingers. Give or take. 
 

He had good games vs the Rams secondary but you see what they thought of their secondary. They signed the poo out of new people as fast as they could.  
Atlanta one killer game. I can’t say the first game was much. But maybe.
Dallas was a real nice win I thought he played well. 
 

I go through them and there just aren’t that many. Even if you get to 7 that you think show he deserves the contract if that is his norm, his standard that he will give us, there is a long way to go. I feel like every game needs to have us expecting excellence. Above average. You can’t be perfect so missing a couple is okay but not like, 10. 

 

Edited 44 minutes ago by strato