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1 hour ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

i just watched Lloyd get COMPLETELY outcoached by Matt Painter, despite Lloyd having 5 future NBA players and Matt Painter having zero. 

That's essentially what Hubert did for 5 seasons.  No thanks. 

Go get Mark Few, stop fuging around. 

It's between Lloyd and Donovan right now. 

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16 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Lloyd has the favorite 2 games from a championship.  He is hedging for a raise IMO.  I cannot see him leaving Zona 

I agree.  The Big 12 is a good conference, and he is the swinging dick in that conference. 

If Bill Self retires, that sets Kansas back a bit, and Arizona moves even further ahead as the best team in that conference.  Arizona can crush west coast recruiting with USC / UCLA no longer being relevant for LA kids, and Gonzaga not being able to compete moneywise.  

If Lloyd comes here, he will be second fiddle to Duke every single year in NIL and recruits.  Not to mention the entire SEC and Big East for kids who want to stay in those regions to play.

This is why I keep saying go get Mark Few.  Has proven he can do more with less from an X / O perspective but can also recruit All American players and compete at a high level. He's a god at Gonzaga, but for $9M he'd make the move as that's 4x what he's making at Gonzaga, and makes him the highest paid coach in the country. 

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Can confirm that Lloyd is interested in the UNC job and isn't using it as a crutch for a pay raise and that Arizona already has a contingency plan in place if he leaves.

I'm beginning to think based on rumblings that's he already decided to leave and informed UNC and Arizona of this. "Both schools knowing explains the information coming out of Arizona." 

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32 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Its Lloyd, he just said AZ will have a great coach after him...

Billy is plan B if LLyod changes his mind, but by all counts he is the guy. 

Now I got to learn about him, zero clue on him. 

Roy's long time assistant Robinson is there at Arizona with him as well. 

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2 hours ago, uncfan888 said:

If it's between Lloyd and Donovan, I take Lloyd 100 out of 100 times. And it seems like it must be between them since they haven't made a hire yet 

Mays is also interested but I think he's the third choice based on what I've seen. 

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4 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Can confirm that Lloyd is interested in the UNC job and isn't using it as a crutch for a pay raise and that Arizona already has a contingency plan in place if he leaves.

I'm beginning to think based on rumblings that's he already decided to leave and informed UNC and Arizona of this. "Both schools knowing explains the information coming out of Arizona." 

It would explain the seeming lack of urgency from UNC too. If they don't have some type of agreement in principle in place with somebody then I don't know what they're doing because it seems like they're just sitting around with their thumb up their ass.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It would explain the seeming lack of urgency from UNC too. If they don't have some type of agreement in principle in place with somebody then I don't know what they're doing because it seems like they're just sitting around with their thumb up their ass.

That's why I think Lloyd has already agreed to it. They're just waiting for him to be done with the tourney. 

I can't imagine they're waiting for Donovan since the portal opens the day after the championship and the nba season won't be over then 

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2 hours ago, uncfan888 said:

That's why I think Lloyd has already agreed to it. They're just waiting for him to be done with the tourney. 

I can't imagine they're waiting for Donovan since the portal opens the day after the championship and the nba season won't be over then 

Donovan seems like highest risk to me. Lloyd and May have already established relationships with all these kids. There’s probably guys hitting the portal that they recruited from HS. And then there’s the possibility of transferring their own guys from their current teams. They’ve also been recruiting the HS kids for like the next 5 years already. Look at the Iowa coach who hit the ground running by transferring all his guys from his D2 program. Or going across sports to Cignetti transferring all his JMU guys year one then building off that to a national title year 2. Donovan is starting from square one having been in the NBA so long and he’s already 60. So you’re potentially punting year 1 for a guy you are just hoping to be a 10 year hire while you figure out how to actually develop your next home grown 20yr guy. That’s 1/10th of the time you have him, more or less at best. The hope would be that he would find some high level assistants who have been working the college recruiting trails already, but then are you giving up his ideal staff just to get a foothold in recruiting and transfers. Think Belichick year one was bad? Imagine how much worse it would be without Steve Belichicks transfer portal pulls. Hoping Mays or Lloyd are all they’re cracked up to be.

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