Wild ride for QB's on draft day?

[nagai]

I've been looking at all these QB's in the draft, much like everyone else here. Gabbert and Newton really haven't impressed me at all, and I don't think I'm alone in this. In fact, a lot of the so called 2nd tier QB's have impressed me more. When I look at the evidence, guys like Dalton, Stanzi and Ponder have looked really good to me.

Now I'm not here to convince you to see things the same way I do, because that would be pointless against huddlers lol. I do think however that this could be a WILD, WILD ride on draft day. I mean I can see both Newton and Gabbert dropping Brady Quinn style, teams trading up to take one of the other guys over them and I still wouldn't be surprised. The draft every year is insane, but I've never expected the insanity like I do this year. Buckle up boys, it's gonna be nuts.

[MHS831]

I read that they were expecting 5 to go in the first (Gabbert, Newton, Mallett, Locker, and even Kaepernick). No way. After the Jags pick at 16, who else really needs a QB?

I think you will see 5 DEs picked in the first round.

I agree that Newton will drop, but i think Gabbert will go top 3. I am not saying that is the case right now, but I am saying that I see Newton's stock dropping over the next 40 days and Gabbert's increasing. Why? Because he is more safe and he has high character. He is smarter, and he is not as rough.

If the Panthers want Newton, they should trade down with Cincinnati or Arizona.

If they want Gabbert, they better take him first overall.

It is a crapshoot.

[davos]

I have a thread in the Draft section about this. I personally think Stanzi & Ponder are gonna be the best QBs from this class (along with McElroy)

[Jaxel]

That's cause you like underdogs.

[Jackofalltrades]

Mallet will be the best IMO.

[davos]

That's cause you like underdogs.

...additionally the one's with big arms (minus Ponder), great records, great stats that showed improvement every year from pro systems. The athletic QBs are overshadowing the more Colt McCoy/Matt Schaub types in this draft. I think one of those three would work better than Clausen for us and could be made into a good NFL QB. We got Shula & Chud here to work with 'em for a reason.

[nagai]

That's cause you like underdogs.

Honestly, no it's not.

Gabbert has a horrible pass attempt to TD ratio. Most good NFL QB's had something like 15:1 in their college careers, Gabbert has something more like 30:1. He also has horrible pocket presence, to the point that I'm questioning his toughness.

Newton has issues that we all know about. I believe that he didn't buy a stolen laptop knowingly, but throwing it out the window isn't a sign of poise or maturity to me. I also find it difficult for him not to know that his father was getting some 'loyalty money' from Auburn. This is just my own speculation though. His subpar wonderlick score does worry me. We were having questions about his intelligence to start off with, given the super simple scheme he was running. A great majority of good NFL QB's have wonderlick scores of 25+, I don't think you can ignore that. I also don't buy into the 'upside' argument. I believe that whenever people refer to a player's upside, they are referring to their physical attributes. I'm not sure any of the top QB's have been praised for their upside coming out of college. People don't judge upside correctly when it comes to QB's imo.

Once again, I hope that these guys prove me wrong. I would love to draft one of these guys 1st overall and have them become great players. I just don't see it. Honestly, I really don't think I'm blinded with an underdog mentality here.

[jtnc]

I'm still pissed about our 2nd round pick, being traded. We could have drafted Mallett with that pick.

[nagai]

I'm still pissed about our 2nd round pick, being traded. We could have drafted Mallett with that pick.

I'm not sure we could've gotten Mallet, but yeah I think we could've gotten one of those guys :mad:.

I'm actually hoping that we trade down to the late teens, early twenties and draft one of these guys with it (right now, I'm thinking Dalton, yes I know it's not a popular stance). It'll be similar to what the Bucs did with Freeman. Honestly, he's really been showing me something, more than what Newton and Gabbert have showed me (at least from an NFL transition standpoint rather than a college dominance standpoint).

[JawnyBlaze]

I read that they were expecting 5 to go in the first (Gabbert, Newton, Mallett, Locker, and even Kaepernick). No way. After the Jags pick at 16, who else really needs a QB?

Well, the Seahawks for one. The Raiders. The Chiefs shouldn't hesitate to jump on one if they fall and they really like him.

[mav1234]

I think Gabbert will be the best quarterback in this class if he lands in the right spot, but I'm not sure he will and he may be forced into action early in a bad situation. IMO, some of the other quarterbacks in this class outside of Newton/Gabbert have a chance to land some place where they can learn and develop... which may mean long term one of them will do very well.

[davos]

If we can somehow get a 2nd round pick, Ponder or Stanzi would be a great pickup. My thoughts are that we should trade down so that we can still get either AJ Green or Julio Jones and get a second rounder from a team. Jacksonville, Cardinals, Titans, Vikings etc. would be possible partners. We get 2 instant upgrades at 2 major offensive positions for the worst offense in football.

[Jerry]

We better make our #1 pick count. We need instant production

from that pick not some project QB that takes years to develop.

But If we do something dumb like taking a QB at #! I'd go with

Gabbert. He has the cocky swagger of Rothelisberger and throws

like Tom Brady. Gabbert >> Newton

[monstercat]

Mallet will be the best IMO.

Really? How many times have you watched him play? I ask because, aside from having a big arm, I never saw anything close to greatness in his play.