NFL Exec.: Cam Would Be Clear-Cut #1, If He Were White (And Other Valuable Nuggets)

[C47]

No. Russell, while having a great skill set, showed up to the combine overweight, the problem with him seemed to be laziness and just not caring.

Do you believe that Newton is lazy?

You said unless someone has a history of violence or drug abuse you don't care about their past.....is that not true....

[Millions]

Mayock already through out that Russell/Newton comparison to name a much more realistic comparison to Big Ben at the Combine.

[C47]

It depends of the guy and what he says and thinks about what he did. When I worked with juevenile delinquents as a psychologist it was sometimes easy to tell the guys who would try and stay out of trouble from those that wouldn't. The guys who stayed out of trouble where the ones after they got caught who realized it was stupid and they needed to make a change. The ones who kept it up were the ones who were upset they got caught not concerned about breaking the law. That is what the interviews are for. If the Panthers are convinced he is sincere and a changed man, there is every reason to believe they will be right. If they don't believe him then they won't pick him.

So what you're saying that the chances of someone who has made mistakes in the past making them again is no higher then someone who has never made mistakes in the past??......and you people wonder why we say poo like get off Cam's nuts.....

[Pox 08]

You said unless someone has a history of violence or drug abuse you don't care about there past.....is that not true....

Well......... since it happened at his own combine, I don't know if you can call it the past. It was the present. One of the biggest days of his life, seemed to not give a damn about it.

[C47]

Well......... since it happened at his own combine, I don't know if you can call it the past. It was the present. One of the biggest days of his life, seemed to not give a damn about it.

Cam's throwing drills were terrible at the combine he even went so far to point some of the blame on the receivers. Was the combine not one of the biggest days of his life....

[teeray]

His combine wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. Don't believe me? Who is the front runner for the number one pick?

Even so there is a difference between struggling and not caring.

[Pox 08]

Cam's throwing drills were terrible at the combine he even went so far to point some of the blame on the receivers. Was the combine not one of the biggest days of his life....

So..... you're comparing off the target throwing drills to showing up to his own combine as an overweight slob? How come that wasn't in your well designed list of "negatives"?

Again, do you believe Newton is lazy?

[panthers55]

So what you're saying that the chances of someone who has made mistakes in the past making them again is no higher then someone who has never made mistakes in the past??......and you people wonder why we say poo like get off Cam's nuts.....

read what I did say, I made it pretty clear. I said that if a person makles a mistake and wants to atone for it then there is a good chance he won't screw up again. If he doesn't care then he will screw up again. But I also said some guys do fine in college and then the money and power of the NFl corrupts them and they do worse as an adult than they did as a pro.

What I said is that previous problems is not a great predictor of future problems if there is a willngness to change. if there isn't then he will screw up again.

You seem to be one reading into things not me.

[countryboi]

Cam's throwing drills were terrible at the combine he even went so far to point some of the blame on the receivers. Was the combine not one of the biggest days of his life....

he didnt blame his receivers he just said their timing was off thats a big difference.

[panthers55]

Cam's throwing drills were terrible at the combine he even went so far to point some of the blame on the receivers. Was the combine not one of the biggest days of his life....

Once again you are taking things out of context and distorting them. He took the blame for playing poorly. He did say that he wasn't used to some of the guys and was used to throwing to the receiver and not a spot. So he indicated he has some work to do. That was not blaming the receivers.

[CRA]

Cam's throwing drills were terrible at the combine he even went so far to point some of the blame on the receivers. Was the combine not one of the biggest days of his life....

I don't think it is....combine is overblown.

I mean, Jimmy Clausen can look better in solo drills than player X.....but them in the fire and it can be a 180. Plus, if you really look at what Cam said......it made sense. Media looks for a story in everything and with every word spoken.

[KillerKat]

Always got to be 1 poster who looks like a moron, but thinks he is one up on everyone else by giving bad examples, telling a fraction of the truth, and comparing apples to oranges.

[ncmonzta]

Well there could be the reason of

COLLEGE.

STATS.

DO.

NOT.

MATTER.

If Luck were to play horrible next year he would slip down a lot depending on his play. Say if he were to have a season like 1800yds, 8tds, 17ints that would probably push him out a the 1st. So how you perform in college does matter. Performance = stats.

[SmootsDaddy89]

I've not seen one person in this forum say they didn't want Newton because he is black.

Just like Obama is a socialist and a communist and a muslim, Cam is a "thug" and a "running qb"

All these nouns are meant to replace the one word they want to say, but can't. I'll give you one hint as to what that is.