Cam's accuracy issues overblown

[CarolinaKat]

IMO Cam looked calm in the pocket. When rushed, he atleast made the first guy miss. Jimmy still looked nervous.

[Ricky Spanish]

i loved loved loved cam's pocket awareness. fantastic feel for pressure.

a lot of you guys are being too hard on our receivers in my opinion. sure cam threw some balls in there but a bunch of the balls he threw were well defended by the corners. split second sooner and they might have been something, but i really can't fault the WRs on EVERY pass that was thrown near them that they didn't catch. the DBs for the giants played well those plays. Cam's footwork still needs some tweaking, but who didn't think that to begin with?

all in all, I wasn't impressed, and I wasn't depressed from what I saw from either Jimmy or Cam. Last night they looked like game managers, nothing more and nothing less.

[Davidson Deac II]

a lot of you guys are being too hard on our receivers in my opinion. sure cam threw some balls in there but a bunch of the balls he threw were well defended by the corners. split second sooner and they might have been something, but i really can't fault the WRs on EVERY pass that was thrown near them that they didn't catch. the DBs for the giants played well those plays. Cam's footwork still needs some tweaking, but who didn't think that to begin with?

Agreed.

Regarding those first two throws to Lafell in the end zone, the first was very well defended and probably shouldn't have been thrown. The second one marginally better, but was still a tough catch.

[CRA]

i loved loved loved cam's pocket awareness. fantastic feel for pressure.

a lot of you guys are being too hard on our receivers in my opinion. sure cam threw some balls in there but a bunch of the balls he threw were well defended by the corners. split second sooner and they might have been something, but i really can't fault the WRs on EVERY pass that was thrown near them that they didn't catch. the DBs for the giants played well those plays. Cam's footwork still needs some tweaking, but who didn't think that to begin with?

all in all, I wasn't impressed, and I wasn't depressed from what I saw from either Jimmy or Cam. Last night they looked like game managers, nothing more and nothing less.

Cam doesn't seem like a game manager at all to me. He seems like a go big or go home type QB......he seems to want the big plays IMO. Just bc he didn't thrown the bombs doesn't mean he won't be taking those chances

[Montie_0123]

I was happy with what I saw, I'm hoping he takes it to another level next week when the team goes to Miami.

[Captain Obvious]

still looks like a work in progress to me. Hold off on getting the bust made for the HOF for now.

[bleys]

still looks like a work in progress to me.

pretty sure everyone feels the same as you, Captain Obvious...

[stirs]

At this point with 2 young QB's who had no OTA's and are running a new offense, the fact that neither stunk the place up is a great sign. New WR's also made it more difficult. Chud probably called a conservative game for both guys.

Anderson understandably looked the most relaxed and in command, even with 3rd stringers and his lack of playing time with the team. In my opinion, we should not discount him as the week 1 starter.

[edromeo]

I agree with the OP.

I think the recent media draft scout/fan focus on accuracy is misguided/overblown.

Imo when you get to top level college QBs/pro prospects the process of reaching that level of play has long since weaned out inaccurate passers.

I think the notion that any NFL QB is net-net inaccurate is down right silly.

You put any NFL QB on a field and ask him to hit a target X yards they're all gonna hit their targets at an acceptable level.

Accuracy means different things to different people.

But, accuracy is measure of ball placement and not completion percentage, but the 2 are highly correlated.

Further, arm strength is a component of accuracy.

Some QBs will be accurate from yards 0-20 yet lack the arm strength to make/hit the downfield velocity/arm strength intensive throws at all or with any reasonable measure of accuracy.

QBs with good arm strength are gonna be able to make throws that other QBs can't even attempt.

Decision making/experience and pass protection are also components of accuracy.

2 QBs can have equal accuracy but the QB with better decision making and knowledge of where to place the ball will be more accurate.

Any QB unduress is gonna less accurate then a QB with solid pass pro.

In short my point is that accuracy is very hard to judge and requires a very in depth look at many variables (which would be helped by understanding the play concept).

Being that the even great QBs only complete about 65-70% of there passes it means that even the great QBs are gonna miss at least 30% of their throws.

If a great QBs throws 35 passes roughly 10 of those passes aren't gonna be complete and the NFL drop rate is low some where below 10%.

Point being that in every game even the great QBs are gonna miss 7 throws over the course of a 35 throw game.

Anyone can point out a few missed passes from any game and claim that those passes are inaccurate and therefore the QB is inaccurate.

If there's gonna be a meaningful measure for accuracy a mendoza line of missed passes % should be established, something more then cherry pick a few plays.

All QBs should seek and most QBs alwasys strive to improve their consistency and their efficiency.

[Razzy]

The pocket presence Cam showed was incredible. I didn't feel the fear I normally feel when Jake/Jimmy where about to throw the ball.

This. Cam seemed to show much better awareness than Jimmy. I noticed him going through his reads and making a real effort of keeping in the pocket, even if that might be coached into him right now since the coaching staff probably wants to get him passing snaps. I also noticed that he often escaped the 1st pressure. His accuracy could be better, but I'd say somewhere around 2/3rd's of his passes were catchable and that ain't bad for a rookie. Overall I was very impressed with Cam and I can't wait to see him in game 2.

[pantherclaw]

Cam defnately has the talent.

He has to improve his footwork to improve his accuracy, and be trusted as a starter.

[footballisasport]

Not saying was accurate....

Not saying he doesn't need work.....like throwing off his back foot

But all in all, I wouldn't say Claussen looked more accurate worth noting.....when Cam was in with the starting OL I thought he was just as accurate but better with his throws mainly bc of how well he anticipates pressure vs Clausen. Both made some nice throws and both made good throws that could of been better.

considering Cam had 2 weeks to prep for his first preseaon game.....his first drive was VERY impressive.

On the night Cam had many throws that went down as incompletions......and many of those were good balls that he gave our players chances to make a play (like LaFell in the end zone going back to him, a couple shots to Charley and Olsen down the sideline, the 3rd down drop to Armanti).......THAT really stood out for me at least. Kid could of had a much better game on top of what we saw.

Good night overall....Cam could be on pace to start week 1. But it is also nice to know Jimmy has made some nice steps forward and that he looks like he could actually go part of the season if asked without it looking like his year under Fox...

But it is early.....and we still don't know where these guys really will be when the season starts. But signs look good. Go Panthers!

Good write up.

[pdandy1994]

im surprised CamHaters haven't come in here and shot down every point you made

[CRA]

im surprised CamHaters haven't come in here and shot down every point you made

Bottom line is Cam made some nice throws that were incompletions and some nice 3rd down throws for incompletions.....and could of had a much better night. for 2 weeks of camp...I think the Cam haters are struggling and left with a tough task. I expected him to be much worse. amazing what he and really Chud and his entire staff ( both sides of the ball) did.

the D really needs a thread. Installing a new d with 2 weeks and getting THAT result......is amazing. not to mention they did it without both starting CBs, Beason, Davis, and Johnson.