Some facts regarding the decision to throw the ball on that infamous 3rd-and-2

[Achilles]

I guess I'll post my thoughts in this forum...

The 3rd and 2 wasn't the only play that cost us the game. Two other mistakes led to our defeat. 1) the timeout at the end of the half and 2) targeting Naane more than any other receiver. #17 as the no. 2 rec is not clutch. The coaches should put LaFell in that position. He uses his body better and is more of a red zone threat.

None of these mistakes is fatal on its own. When you add them up they point to poor coaching decisions. mistakes of a similar nature (punting to Hester) cost us the Chi game. The AZ and GB losses were more on the defense; yet had some poor clock management.

Similarly, having a rookie QB and a rookie HC is a fatal combination. When you add it all up, we really should expect some growing pains. Overall, the D has played well enough to win games. The offense can put up points with any team in the league. It's on Rivera to learn how to win games.

Right now the head coach IS holding this team back. We are not going to be a playoff team. probably toward the end of the season we will start to see it all come together. I expect us to get to 5 wins still. Although we could easily be 3-2and in the hunt. I do think we have to like our chances next season after assessing the D.

[TheOracle]

Fact: They should not have abandoned the run on that drive.

[Kevin Greene]

Right now the head coach IS holding this team back. We are not going to be a playoff team. probably toward the end of the season we will start to see it all come together. I expect us to get to 5 wins still. Although we could easily be 3-2and in the hunt. I do think we have to like our chances next season after assessing the D.

Hmm, let's all pause for a moment and imagine Cam Newton on the Panthers last year instead of Jimmy Claussen..........

Done?

Yeah, Rivera and this staff is now one of the strongest parts of this organization.

[Frizzy350]

fact: the saints D didnt expect it

fact: if smitty didnt get bumped at LOS, easy completion

fact: newton needed a second longer to see above fact

[SOJA]

Fact: I support this thread

[SOJA]

Fact We had extra point blocked. An extra point!

Fact We called timeout at end of first half which gave NO time to kick a field goal.

Fact If the offense substitutes, the refs must hold up play in order to let the defense substitute. We would not have penalized for too many players on the field.

Fact We gave away 4 points. We lost by 3 points

good post

[chef17]

Williams was averaging almost 13 yards. IMO running him is the better choice

[Jangler]

FACT: we will have a top 5 pick this yr

TBH I'm not seeing the problem.

[ncsfinest21]

fact: Run option more.

[Toolbox]

fact: stop being so scared of running plays that has worked before

[Fox007]

Yeah, Rivera and this staff is now one of the strongest parts of this organization.

I agree with this, I just said I disagree with the 3rd and 2 call and that Rivera should have just left the base defense on the field at the end of the second half.

It doesn't mean I want them fired or that I think they suck, not sure where all the anger came from.

[ncsfinest21]

Originally Posted by DoubleTrouble34

FACT: we will have a top 5 pick this yr

It better be on DEFENSE. A DT. Hogan will be back, Beason will be back, Davis will be back. Next year is ours for the taking. This year we can but it will be tough to win 9 more games out this year but with Cam it can happen

[Rags]

Originally Posted by DoubleTrouble34

FACT: we will have a top 5 pick this yr

It better be on DEFENSE. A DT. Hogan will be back, Beason will be back, Davis will be back. Next year is ours for the taking. This year we can but it will be tough to win 9 more games out this year but with Cam it can happen

There is no DT worth taking in the top 5

if we're picking in the top 5, CB or WR.

[countryboi]

fact: i dont know what we are yelling about