Is this the best offense we'eve ever had?..

[panthers55]

It's what I've been saying. This is by far the most inefficient offense we've had. We should be averaging 30-32 ppg considering our yards. The Beuerlein of 1999 was way better. Plus all of those teams put up over 30 points numerous times and hit over 40 at least once. Heck even Pete's O pf 2002 put up a whopping 52 against Cincinnati. Smith had 2 punt returns for TD's.

I'm watching the Jaguars/Ravens game and it's 9-0 with 7 left in the 4th quarter and it took their kicker making 2 54 yarders to get those. What these guys wouldn't give to just have one of our offensive drives right now. We piss them away like they are nothing. Gabbert still look sorry.

I think you are going way overboard to say this offense is the most inefficient. We are averaging 23.7 points on 417 yards. Seems to me the 2010 offense which averaged 12.2 points on 258 yards was the most inefficient.

[Pantherball]

I think you are going way overboard to say this offense is the most inefficient. We are averaging 23.7 points on 417 yards. Seems to me the 2010 offense which averaged 12.2 points on 258 yards was the most inefficient.

Should it made it more clear. Out of the good offenses. LOL. Certainly not overall. We have had a lot worse.

I personally wouldn't even use the word efficiency to describe that 2010 team. That O wasn't inefficient. That one just plain sucked. Inefficiency or efficiency at least implies you have the ability to score a certain amount beyond what's it's doing and I'm not sure if that one really ever did. That one's top output was 23 and never really looked capable of more than that. I'm 100% confident this team has the capability of scoring 30+ points per game. The 33 against Washington is nowhere near this team's peak. It could have already scored 37-40 on the the Bears, GB and the Saints just off the top of my head. We could have reached 44 against the Saints. The 3rd and 2nd call, and then on the last drive, we had 2 rounds of possessions where we just stood right around our own 40 yard line which we killed with penalties, bad throws, more questionable play calling, a stupid wobble by Naanee which got overturned, and poor clock management. Didn't even have enough time to play 4th down. Washington was another, but we didn't even try to since we didn't need it. But if we needed to 40 was there this past Sunday. If they would have scored again, we would have hit 40. On Green Bay....heck the sky was the limit in that game. We settled for 2 FG in the first half instead of 7, again on stupid penalties, an unlikely fumble by Smith on another awesome drive, and then 3 more turn-overs on top of that which should have gotten us at least something...then came up 1 yard short again at the end where Cam runs it out of bounds for a loss instead of throwing the ball away. I swear we should have had 45-50 points in that game.

They still have a lot of work to do before they can be called efficient. If they ever get it right though, they can probably top the 99 team. There's time to catch up and surpass them this year if they make this past Sunday the turning point.

[ed bell]

It's like a sea change....really. No way anyone would have thought this would happen, let alone having Cam being pushed into starting from week one....We are a few Red-Zone conversions and a monsoon game away from being on par with the Super Bowl favorite offenses. Add to that the fact that we are judging this less than half way through the season. Who knows how this will play out? No way anyone predicted this type of production regardless of the record, but the devastating injuries on D weren't expected either.

[carolinarolls]

offensive stats just like all stats are subjective and circumstantial

don't think of success in the form of stats

rarely and i mean very rarely does a team or teams put enough wins together to make it to the grande finale. Only two out of thirty two get there each year. some wins will have poo stats and some wins will look dominant on paper. The hope is that a team can string enough wins together to get there.

crap teams make the playoffs quite often. Great teams get left out quite often.

the only way you can assure a chance is to have a winning mentality.

I'm gonna kick your ass and there is nothing you can do about it

Not, great game, good job, I had fun. I am going to kill you. It's a violent game. If you want to be successful you have to be hungry enough to deliver the pain and smat enough to do it between the whistles..

IMO, aggressive play is necessary. Opponents must be hurt. Pain must be inflicted. There is no way to win an NFL game politely

[ed bell]

Exactly why getting your ass handed to you by the run game over and over doesn't end well, even if it's a pass happy game these days.

[Pantherball]

offensive stats just like all stats are subjective and circumstantial

don't think of success in the form of stats

rarely and i mean very rarely does a team or teams put enough wins together to make it to the grande finale. Only two out of thirty two get there each year. some wins will have poo stats and some wins will look dominant on paper. The hope is that a team can string enough wins together to get there.

crap teams make the playoffs quite often. Great teams get left out quite often.

the only way you can assure a chance is to have a winning mentality.

I'm gonna kick your ass and there is nothing you can do about it

Not, great game, good job, I had fun. I am going to kill you. It's a violent game. If you want to be successful you have to be hungry enough to deliver the pain and smat enough to do it between the whistles..

IMO, aggressive play is necessary. Opponents must be hurt. Pain must be inflicted. There is no way to win an NFL game politely

In that case expect the Ravens and Jaguars there after watching tonight's game;)

That was the 2003 team. That's the attitude we had. We had a dominant O line, we knew what we were going to do, we let teams know it and would tell them they can't stop us, and Davis just continued to burn them with the run up the gut. We beat teams into submission that year with our run game and defense responded on the other side of the ball as well.

GB's like that this year. So are the Saints. Pats always have that mentality. Steelers only when Ben's lazy ass feels like it.

This team's attitude and confidence isn't quite there. Rivera's attitude is nowhere near there. Cam thinks he's there, but he had a wake-up call this past losing streak and he hasn't had one of those hard fought wins he shouldn't get yet that really back up your confidence.

Delhomme and the 2003 team got that from their first game of the season and Delhomme's first start with this team. He was subbed in the second half with us trailing 17-0 against the Jaguars and TOLD everyone we're going to WIN the game. On 4th and 11 in the 4th quarter from the Jaguars 12 yard line he nails the tying TD. Then in response to Delhomme's comeback, our D blocks Jacksonville's go ahead FG.

And from that moment....the Cardiac Cats were born. That team knew they could do amazing things as a unit. And they did things like that all year long all the way into the playoffs and into the Superbowl.

We have yet to have a win like that. I honestly have no idea how that team was handling that kind of pressure all year long but they did it and it's what made that team so amazing. The way in which they won. That to me is what makes a great offense...winning in that kind of CLUTCH manner. They had Superbowl-like pressure just about every game that year. They were ready for the playoffs and Superbowl by the end of the regular season.

[Nef]

Best offense we've ever had... maybe. But the season isn't over yet but I honestly miss Double Trouble during their peak. Will not deny, Cam has brought something new to this team and I love it.

[pantherj]

I'd say this is our best ever, and imagine is we had Gettis.

[Cape Fear Cat]

I don't know the stats, but going just by how it makes me feel to watch them, this years seems better to me. I don't remember a Panthers offense as potent as this one.

[teeray]

Should it made it more clear. Out of the good offenses. LOL. Certainly not overall. We have had a lot worse.

So now you are saying we have a good offense. You change like the wind PF4L.

You argue with everybody but have said in the last 24 hours that our offense is good and our defense isn't. Therefore according to you it is clearly on the offense that we haven't won more games!!!

I watched the Jags/Ravens game last night too. I am sure they wish they had our offense. But if we had either one of those two team's defense we would likely be somewhere between 7-0 and 5-2.

Our offense has been good but it can get better. Our defense is bad right now and must get better.

[Car123]

The 2004 offense is underrated here it seems

[Doc Holiday]

The 99 and 08 offenses were better, just giving them the eyeball test and I would say yes.

Now this years while good, to me has always felt like a work in progress and and not the dominate machines that was 08 and 99.

in 08 you could tell that teams feared us, I don't get that feeling this year.

[teeray]

I regards to the OP, I don't think this is our best defense ever but perhaps our most explosive. It also has the potential to be amazing in two years.

[Pantherball]

So now you are saying we have a good offense. You change like the wind PF4L.

You argue with everybody but have said in the last 24 hours that our offense is good and our defense isn't. Therefore according to you it is clearly on the offense that we haven't won more games!!!

I watched the Jags/Ravens game last night too. I am sure they wish they had our offense. But if we had either one of those two team's defense we would likely be somewhere between 7-0 and 5-2.

Our offense has been good but it can get better. Our defense is bad right now and must get better.

What?