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Panthers 2012 Free Agents, Players Under Contract & Cap Space

R0CKnR0LLA

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Snake Grand Master

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Yes, any team can restructure like that to create cap space for the current season. This is actually beneficial to the player too, as it makes their base salary fully guaranteed and they receive a big check up front instead of 16 game checks over the course of the season.

But this doesn't magically create cap space out of thin air, it simply pushes current cap hits onto future seasons and you have to deal with them then. I expect a few of these type of restructures to happen, though not too many as we already around 100M toward 2013 and 14.

So basically we are in cap trouble... If we were a playoff team looking for a SB ok... but we are a 2 win team last year, maybe a 4 win team this year and I dont see SB next year.

Solution? FIRE HURNEY!!! CAP HELL!!!
We are very close. I sure hope hurney can work his magic once more cause this team could use some upgrading in the near future.
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MadHatter Rookie

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Yes, seriously. DT should be at the top of the list, way ahead of the other positions. Our pass defense hasn't really been too shabby this year, if we could stop people from running over our face up the middle, things would be different.

Why do people keep saying that we need to add another ROOKIE DT as our 1st rd pick next year? We have two young DT's on the roster that have good upside. DT's (not named Suh) usually take a couple of years to develop.

We need DT help. But, it is VET help.

In the draft, we have to go OLB, CB, or OL as priorities.

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I really dont understand the consensus that if a player drafted doesnt come in and light it up as a rookie you automatically must look for there replacement. I mean come on, give these guys time to develop or at least a real off season before u give up on them. Building a team isnt all about finding studs with a every acquisition its about developing the ones that arent too. Fua and McClain havent given me any reason to think they cant be great players its too early to tell that.

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Matthias Proficient

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rock what is the cap hit if we cut DWill this offseason?

That contract may be the biggest blunder of this off-season. Not that D-will isn't playing well, just that he doesn't have no more than 8 carries a game. Could have saved that money for another position.

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Are you sure? I thought the signing bonus was spread out over the next 5 years. Does that go out the window when he's cut?

Anyways, I really feel like people overrate our defenses potential. Looking at the team objectively...

Charles Johnson, Anderson, Gamble, Beason, and Godfrey are the only guys worthy of being NFL starters. I guess Hardy too because unlike all the other rookies/young players he's actually shown flashes of being a legit pass rusher, although against the run he's atrocious.

Offensively we def need a new RT but for the most part I'm fine with the pieces we have.

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      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By LinvilleGorge · Posted

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      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

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      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By LinvilleGorge · Posted

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