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End of season poll: D-line


davos

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I've seen this talked about here and there and wanted to just throw it out there:

Are you ok with what we have on the defensive line?

A lot of people somehow seem comfortable with a slightly above average 33 year old vet coming off an injury, 3 sophomore DTs with the undrafted one the only that showed something, surprises and strong rotational guys in Shirley, Keiser, and Applewhite, then you got Nebbles.

We have a stud in CJ and Hardy keeps looking better and better...so...

What do you see happening? & What do you want to happen?

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defensive line is one of the positions that benefits most from an offseason conditioning system. glad that fua, mcclain, keiser get what hardy didn't get coming off his rookie season. still a young group, though applewhite-calibre players will always be welcome. doubt any splash FA signings, but expect D-line draft pick in any round, if the value is right. focus on pass rushing difference makers.

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Watching the Giants reminds me how far a monster DL can take a team! Can't throw to the receiver they gave up so much for when JPP and Tuck are getting to Matty Ice within seconds!

Yes we need a true #2 CB and if lucky get someone better than Gamble and let Gamble be our #2, but if we find a DE that can better Hardy and maybe CJ and beef up our interior then our defense improves greatly..............even with Martin in the secondary. Hardy being our third DE on the depth chart is a good problem and people need to start looking at it that way!

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Watching the Giants reminds me how far a monster DL can take a team! Can't throw to the receiver they gave up so much for when JPP and Tuck are getting to Matty Ice within seconds!

Yes we need a true #2 CB and if lucky get someone better than Gamble and let Gamble be our #2, but if we find a DE that can better Hardy and maybe CJ and beef up our interior then our defense improves greatly..............even with Martin in the secondary. Hardy being our third DE on the depth chart is a good problem and people need to start looking at it that way!

Agreed I have been thinking the same thingIt almost there DTs and DEs are interchangible.They all bring pressure .They torched the Birds today

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