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Panthers expected to not tender Schwartz

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I wouldn't call Hangartner or Omiyale quality starters in their other stints.

Wasn't Hartgartner asked to play C on a bad OL

with bad QB play?

Only positive to him over Schartz is he ability to step in if Kalil misses a game

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I wouldn't call Hangartner or Omiyale quality starters in their other stints.

Omiyale SUCKED in Chicago....lost his starting job...and then got cut.

I know he sucked in CHI, my point was that so many of our backups have gone on to be starters elsewhere. If you can have that kind of quality behind your starters, you should hold onto it.

I had a feeling I should attach an asterisk or something to Omiyale's name in that post, lol.

I think we do a great job scouting OLinemen, I just wish we'd hang onto them and let them develop... We gave up on guys like Mathis and Montgomery way too early.

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By not tendering Schwartz they are obviously choosing to go with Wharton, Bernadeau, Allen, Byron, and Williams. At tackle they will go with Otah, Gross and Ziemba, and Bell. Plus whoever we pick up in free agency or in the draft.

Then again lets see who else might be on the chopping block, who knows.

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I know he sucked in CHI, my point was that so many of our backups have gone on to be starters elsewhere. If you can have that kind of quality behind your starters, you should hold onto it.

I had a feeling I should attach an asterisk or something to Omiyale's name in that post, lol.

I think we do a great job scouting OLinemen, I just wish we'd hang onto them and let them develop... We gave up on guys like Mathis and Montgomery way too early.

You have to keep in mind these guys wanted an opportunity to start and that wasn't going to happen here in Carolina. Also, to pay a backup "starters money" (even if minimum) just to stay isn't a good option when we've been floating so close to the cap the past few years and I'm not sure how realistic that is when you can plug in another backup for much less..

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You have to keep in mind these guys wanted an opportunity to start and that wasn't going to happen here in Carolina. Also, to pay a backup "starters money" (even if minimum) just to stay isn't a good option when we've been floating so close to the cap the past few years and I'm not sure how realistic that is when you can plug in another backup for much less..

Agreed, but I with some of those guys, I don't think they were gonna get starter money. I don't think Schwartz was. And if I remember correctly, guys like Mathis and Montgomery were cut during training camp/before a season started.

But, as I said earlier, and you pointed out, we seem pretty good at scouting OL talent so replacements shouldn't be hard to find.

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Agreed, but I with some of those guys, I don't think they were gonna get starter money. I don't think Schwartz was. And if I remember correctly, guys like Mathis and Montgomery were cut during training camp/before a season started.

But, as I said earlier, and you pointed out, we seem pretty good at scouting OL talent so replacements shouldn't be hard to find.

yeah, we seem to replenish our losses fairly well...

only thing I'd add is it took Mathis almost 7 years just to land a starting spot, and I bring that up because when he was with the Panthers he was a huge liability despite his athleticism.. It was a much more athletic guy (Mathis) battling it out against a much less athletic guy with smarts, and the guy with smarts won out (Hangman)...

For instance, 7 years later he finally found a home next to a few rookies and I think one vet (Jason Peters) who made the probowl his previous season (2010) despite leading the league with the most sacks given up...

I don't remember much about Montgomery though..

just my recollection from years past and the circumstances that may or may not explain why Mathis was let go...

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