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Worst Free Agent Loss In Panthers History.


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Think you given Griffith lil to much praise. Do you honestly believe Griffith would had made Anthony Johnson or Biakabutuka a 1000 yard rusher each year if he stayed? extremely doubtful.

Terrel Davis was much much better then either of our RB at the time. Denver was much better team then us. You make it sound like only reason Denver won back to back super bowl was because of Griffith.

Peppers leaving hurt us more then Griffith, Kasey leaving probably hurt more too.

there's a huge difference between "the man that made them" (elway) and "got them over the hump" (griffith)

denver does not have two superbowls without griffith. and we let him walk.

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the defensive line has fallen off hard as a whole since his hayday but that's hardly indicative of his replacement at DE. remember johnson posted superior numbers in 2010 and they were on par in 2011.

No, I know. Johnson has completely helped make the process easier. But I was 10 when he was drafted. He was by far my favorite player, It definitely hit me the hardest more than any other player leaving. Even though I saw it coming when he was tagged. I still never wanted to believe he didn't want to play here.

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Fwiw, I am not sure if losing Peppers really hurt us. He is good, but I am not sure he is worth that much. But more importantly, if we had kept Peppers, maybe he makes a few big plays that help us win 1-2 games we otherwise lost. Then we don't have the number one pick, and maybe we don't get to draft Cam Newton. So in the long run, its possible that Peppers leaving helped us in a roundabout way.

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Not a fa but Minter retiring has hurt us as bad as anthing. Chris Harris was ok, but as an organization we really have never been able to replace Minter yet. His leadership, his tackling, and his knowledge of the defense and getting people lined up in the secondary correctly and adjusting coverages has not been replaced yet. Why do you think everyone has been yelling for a corner for 2 years. If Minter was back there I dont think corner would be as big of an issue as it is now.

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