Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

4th and 1: Why It's Impossible for Carolina

Anybodyhome

By Anybodyhome,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

Anybodyhome Grand Master

Anybodyhome

Posted
Posted

Because the obvious play would be using the biggest, most athletic QB in the league to run a very simple QB sneak.

From inside the 1 to the goal line or needing 2 feet for a first down, this would be the easiest play in the world for this team.

But if your QB doesn't take snaps from under center, how do you run a sneak? The answer is quite simple- you don't. You run a bootleg stretch play and throw the ball into the turf or you try a read option hand off from 6 yards behind the line of scrimmage and hope the RB can get a few. Bound for failure.

News Flash: Cam Newton has not taken a snap from under center yet this season. This effectively eliminates the I-formation, negating the success of DeAngelo and Jonathon and removes play-action. How you run a successful offense in the NFL without these 3 key elements is beyond me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
BIGH2001 Grand Master

BIGH2001

Posted
Posted

They were in the I just a few plays before that when deangelo got stuffed for about a 3 yard loss on 2nd and goal. Still they ran the sneak out of the I last year and did it successfully. Chud has just gone full on retard with the playcalling this season.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted

Because the obvious play would be using the biggest, most athletic QB in the league to run a very simple QB sneak.

From inside the 1 to the goal line or needing 2 feet for a first down, this would be the easiest play in the world for this team.

But if your QB doesn't take snaps from under center, how do you run a sneak? The answer is quite simple- you don't. You run a bootleg stretch play and throw the ball into the turf or you try a read option hand off from 6 yards behind the line of scrimmage and hope the RB can get a few. Bound for failure.

News Flash: Cam Newton has not taken a snap from under center yet this season. This effectively eliminates the I-formation, negating the success of DeAngelo and Jonathon and removes play-action. How you run a successful offense in the NFL without these 3 key elements is beyond me.

Cam has taken snaps under center....he did it yesterday. The play before 4th and 1 was under center

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted

With a rookie and a back-ups back-up at the guard spots and us getting killed in the middle all game (that includes you Kalil!), how exactly do you expect them to all of a sudden get enough push for Cam to sneak/dive in for a TD?

Well you also can't let the giant leapfrog the pile.....

Brees did it against us....Cam doesn't it much easier. You don't have to go through....over works probably better.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
GotSwag? Newbie

GotSwag?

Posted
Posted

This team is feeling the pressure big time. I still love these guys and this team, but they should have shut up in the offseason. Kalil guaranteed a Super Bowl win, while others were on twitter talking about how good we were going to be. I understand this team needs the confidence, but that comes with winning and right now, we just need to shut up and play like we did at the end of last season.

Two 4th down and 1's have killed our season so far. Its not over yet b/c once this team gets going, its going to be really tough to stop us --- but do we ever get going is the question.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Thorrez Collaborator

Thorrez

Posted
Posted

Well you also can't let the giant leapfrog the pile.....

Brees did it against us....Cam doesn't it much easier. You don't have to go through....over works probably better.

Over works on inches (snap and reach) if you can trust your center to hold the ground. It was not inches and Kalil was getting killed every time they bullrushed.

And if you mean let them block and jump over my point above is still valid. Not much is gained by jumping over the pile and land at the original los...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
megadeth078 Newbie

megadeth078

Posted
Posted

Every team in the league knows we want to run the ball safely in the redzone. Every team that we've faced is always challenging us to pass the ball when we get down there. They're ready to stop the run first because that's all we run. It's really no wonder why Cam isn't ready to make that pass. The pass play was a good call on 3rd down, but I would have liked to have seen it on second down. I did not like the pass play on 4th down. If you want the entire game to rest upon Cam passing the ball in the redzone at least make sure he has experiencing doing that first. Chud needs to let Cam grow up. Forcing him to do nothing but runs when we get into the redzone is not helping him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Tarheels23 Newbie

Tarheels23

Posted
Posted

News Flash: Cam Newton has not taken a snap from under center yet this season. This effectively eliminates the I-formation, negating the success of DeAngelo and Jonathon and removes play-action. How you run a successful offense in the NFL without these 3 key elements is beyond me.

Dude did you even watch the game or any games this year for that matter? The 4th & 1 play was actually ran from under center. SMH

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted

Over works on inches (snap and reach) if you can trust your center to hold the ground. It was not inches and Kalil was getting killed every time they bullrushed.

And if you mean let them block and jump over my point above is still valid. Not much is gained by jumping over the pile and land at the original los...

Have you seen Cam jump and pile for no yardage? I haven't

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Khyber53
      a look at our 19 udfas

      By Khyber53 · Posted

      And, honestly, there's only so much you can attempt to do in the draft. And every draft pick is a roll of the dice. But that's where grabbing a ton of UDFAs, and targeting the best, makes a big difference. Sure, their individual chances of getting a hit here is less, but that shotgun pattern might just hit something.  Right now, we need bulk, partly to rebuild and partly to dilute the deep level of stank that has developed on this team in the last six years. If we're going to rebuild a culture built around culture, accountability and winning, then these UDFAs we bring in each season have to be the wash water that gets out that leftover dirt.  Canales seems to be a smart, culture-first, build up the good ones kind of guy. I like that and I hope he can keep it going here. But he was working against a locker room that had been taught to lose and taught to distrust or ignore coaches. He's got his work cut out for him, still. He does seem to have it moving in the right direction and that's something I was pretty amazed with by the end of last season.  
    • shaqattaq
      Strength of Schedule for 2025

      By shaqattaq · Posted

      The most telling sign, IMO, of a team on the upward swing is who we lost in the off-season. Who left that even saw the field? Woods, Clowney, Sanders, & Hekker. OK...no big deal. Clowney is the only 1 that I raised an eyebrow over and I get that it was a money decision. No need to pay him over $7M to take snaps from our draft picks when he was just OK last year.
    • jfra78
      2025 Schedule Release - post 'em when you find 'em

      By jfra78 · Posted

      Eagles vs Cowboys for season opener TBD vs Chargers in Brazil on Friday week 1
×
×
  • Create New...