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Shula proponent behind replacing zone read last season?

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it says shula helped to install a more traditional offense. qb coaches are known to help with the overall offense when developing quarterbacks.

Yep.  Those guys contribute, but that's it.  It's pretty ridiculous to suggest that Shula was running the offense by the end of the season.  

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correct.

Zone read was a staple in 2011.

We went a tad overboard for about 4 games to start 2012....and then it remained a staple to finish out the season. Also, horrific G play and not having a healthy Stewart didn't help while trying to ramp up the zone read.

It also would have helped if Louis Murphy could actually make a play on a ball thrown to him. When the G play was holding up a bit. Tampa really exposed the read option week 1 then man handled by the Giants.

I remember seeing Cam throw the fade to Murphy 3 times in a row during a preseason gamei think..he could not get in a position to make a play on it.

It seemed like they were working on that all preseason too but aside from one good catch nothing..just a ball bouncing off clumsey weak hands.

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It also doesn't help that Cam occasionally rides it too long.  I think it would be a huge mistake to take it away completely.  It's like people forget about all of the big plays we get off of it.  

 

there is a reason why he rode it long.....DE was staying on him and there was no hole for the RB to hit (not to mention, Williams often fought Cam over the ball).

 

But yeah, people say the read option sucks, ignore it was key in 3 postseason teams making it.....has aided Cam to a historic pace....and then overlook all the HUGE plays it generates.  All b/c of a 4 game stretch

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there is a reason why he rode it long.....DE was staying on him and there was no hole for the RB to hit (not to mention, Williams often fought Cam over the ball).

 

 

If the DE stays on him, Cam is supposed to give it to the back.  It's supposed to be a quick decision by the QB based on that read.  

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If the DE stays on him, Cam is supposed to give it to the back.  It's supposed to be a quick decision by the QB based on that read.  

 

Not to run into the back of the OL.  Williams also slows it down...  

 

To run it consistantly in the NFL you need a POWER RB.  Hence, why Stewart was the primary and preferred RB when healthy.

 

Morris, Stewart, Lynch, Gore....what do they have in common.

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Not to run into the back of the OL.  Williams also slows it down...  

 

To run it consistantly in the NFL you need a POWER RB.  Hence, why Stewart was the primary and preferred RB when healthy.

 

Morris, Stewart, Lynch, Gore....what do they have in common.

Just to be clear, I'm not blaming all of the failed zone reads on Cam, just pointing out that he occasionally hesitates too long.  It's not his responsibility to block for the running back.  His responsibility is to read the end and make a decision based on that read.  Often times, he executes this just fine, but sometimes there's too much wait.  

 

We both agree that it should stay in the playbook.   

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Every post in at least a year has said the same thing.

Is it wrong? Said over and over before week 1 they shouldn't run a single read option with Williams as the only RB. Result was him having negative yardage

Also I was one of the very few who stood and said we didn't to extend both of our first round RBs. Pick one. I was heavily bashed for that....now it seems most of the board is awfully late jumping on that bandwagon

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I've seen you post this a few times, in a few different threads, recently. Can you stop interjecting this opinion (and a bad one at that) into threads that aren't related to Cam's on field demeanor? As much as you're bashing people for TMZ style posting about Cam, you seem to be going out of the way to espouse your contrived opinion about how Cam handles adversity.

But dude if he can't contrive then what else does he have to offer this forum besides nothing?

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