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Conservative playcalling from Ron and Shula cost us this game.


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Good luck finding one single thing/area that lost us this game.

 

Blame to go all the fugin' round.

 

This. I'm not sure that I can find a single redeeming thing to take away from this loss. The team was outplayed in every facet of the game. The coaches were outdone in the worst way. Everybody takes blame for this loss. Nobody did much of anything right.

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A whole half where adjustments weren't made.

And the Saints dominated our O for more than a quarter. They dominated our D for a quarter.

Team sport......2nd quarter was the game. We handled their O the entire game except for 1 q. We needed 4 instead of 3. We are what we are..... we can't win with a D that allows 21 in a quarter

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Their is a solution for pressure and weak OL play.

Called quick passes / 3 step drops.

Get the ball out quick and hot.

Sorry, we have Shula. He beats pressure with 15-18 yard routes straight up the sidelines.

When that doesn't work, he takes our awesome receiving TE and has him help Byron Bell.

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People keep saying we ran a zone on D, and I can understand it given how much field there was between their wideouts and our Cbs. From the times I was paying close attention, I don't think that was the case.

Their receivers really were just that open.

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People keep saying we ran a zone on D, and I can understand it given how much field there was between their wideouts and our Cbs. From the times I was paying close attention, I don't think that was the case.

Their receivers really were just that open.

 

We should have played man 80% of the time. 1 deep S. with a robber in zone in the middle of the field. Take away the inside and make them beat you to the outside and over the top. 

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People keep saying we ran a zone on D, and I can understand it given how much field there was between their wideouts and our Cbs. From the times I was paying close attention, I don't think that was the case.

Their receivers really were just that open.

I couldn't tell for sure. CBs were releasing receivers kinda early, but with not much help over the top.

I think the Saints just exploited whatever we were doing. We adjusted, but it was pretty harsh.

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the saints executed to perfection and made us one-dimensional for the entire second half. the better football team outplayed us and exposed our glaring weaknesses.

 

just like seattle exposed the saints last week, the saints exposed us this week.

 

not much more to be said.

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I agree our line play was abysmal...pretty clear CJ was not ready to play.

 

However, I particularly liked the O's running of the flanker screen, insistence on running it at least once a game in fact, when it has not worked in at least 5 years.

 

If there is one play that needs to never, ever, show its had again, it's that one.

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