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Shula's play calling was not HORRIBLE, just okay


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I wasn't in the game day thread, so don't know what was said.

 

The play calling was way, way too conservative in my opinion. If we didn't block that punt, I'm not sure we would have won. Shula just plays things too close to the vest. Cam was throwing the ball well, we are better at pass protection than run blocking and we were facing a tough run defense. The ball should have been in the air much more and I believe the game would have been over early in the 3rd quarter.

 

I applaud the performance of our o-line and DWill. They managed to be effective against a tough defense. But I don't think we will go far if we stay this conservative going forward.

 

I agree with you.

 

I was at the game yesterday. 

 

Cam is concerning me. 

 

When at the game, a person can see the patterns and open receivers, several times he didn't even see them, not even close.and yes, he had time.

 

Cam is also becoming increasingly indecisive and he also seems to be falling over his own feet a lot.

 

I will get flamed for saying it but that was one ugly and lucky win tomorrow both from Cam and from missed tackles in

the defense as well.

 

Yes it was a win but the Panthers have not exactly looked like a playoff team for awhile.

 

Just saying what I saw,, not trying to be a Debbie Downer.

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For those complaining about red zone play calls... I think a graphic put on screen early in the game had us as 4th best in the league in red zone TD scoring. Also, why do anything different than what we're used to doing in the red zone because its obviously working. There is no reason to use a play we've rarely(never) run this year and risk having Seattle or saints have game tape on it when it might be the difference between win or lose in the playoffs.

Also, I've noticed Cam's indecisiveness recently. Id like to think its because WRs aren't running good routes or aren't getting open or we've recently been facing better defenses and Shula hasn't deviated too much from the game plan we've had all year.

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I was very pleased with the offense today. The 4th down call was bad imo. You take the points vs. the Jets.

 

I love the balls to go for it but you take those points.   We are up 13 and god forbid they score two TDs you are only a FG away from the win.

 

That drive had me on edge when they scored.   Thank god defense stepped up and stopped them and of course Mr. Williams noticing a oversight by the NYJ special teams.   Blew up the comeback.

 

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There is also judging the rythm of the game, the situation,  and how the team is playing in going for it on 4th down.  In that situation, take the points.

 

Maybe it was different on TV but that offense appeared so out of rythm  at the stadium yesterday, well, there were boos an their ineptness.

 

Somewhere, there has to be the ability to strike quickly when needed and i'm just not sure this team has that or can get it back.

 

I hear people say the WRs are the issue, well, they are better WRs then we ad last year. 

 

Cam not step up or moving away from pressure is also concerning.  He is going to get a heavy dose of that until he stops stepping back, stepping back some more, and losing 10+ yards.   This is such a fixable, coachable, issue.  Why hasn't it been corrected, even with planned rollouts to give him more time or a better ability to see the field.

 

Ginn,  special teams, dear Lord, lately, catch the ball, slide to catch the ball, drop the ball.

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only play call I HATED....was that dumb fake QB run where he tried the jump pass or whatever to Olsen.  It is pretty obvious by now that Olsen is the one guy you have to guard trying to sneak out of plays for open looks in the redzone.    Hated that on first down

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http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Panthers-paced-by-big-plays/3f4232c7-b2ed-4750-b9c5-cfb280a0733a

 

Article and video talk about the number of big plays and large chunks of yardage we got. For the year we average 5.1 yards per play.  Yesterday we averaged 6.3 yards a play.  I thought we did a good job of taking what the defense gave us.

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I agree with you.

I was at the game yesterday.

Cam is concerning me.

When at the game, a person can see the patterns and open receivers, several times he didn't even see them, not even close.and yes, he had time.

Cam is also becoming increasingly indecisive and he also seems to be falling over his own feet a lot.

I will get flamed for saying it but that was one ugly and lucky win tomorrow both from Cam and from missed tackles in

the defense as well.

Yes it was a win but the Panthers have not exactly looked like a playoff team for awhile.

Just saying what I saw,, not trying to be a Debbie Downer.

Cam at one point had like 7 or 8 consecutive completions, and finished 16/24 with 273 yards, 11.3 YPA, 1 TD, and a QB rating of 118.9.

It sounds to me like you saw what you wanted to see, instead of the game the rest of us watched.

Some "fans" will never be happy with our quarterback. It's quite sad really.

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Shula has given us the balance between pass and rush that we all screamed for last year. He does seem to go a little Chudzinsy from time to time with the long developing plays and all the running plays from the shotgun, but play calling is way too easy to second guess. He seems to make better adjustments than he was given credit for early on.

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Cam at one point had like 7 or 8 consecutive completions, and finished 16/24 with 273 yards, 11.3 YPA, 1 TD, and a QB rating of 118.9.

It sounds to me like you saw what you wanted to see, instead of the game the rest of us watched.

Some "fans" will never be happy with our quarterback. It's quite sad really.

 

Some 'fans' put their money where their mouth is....get sick of the 'will never be happy' statements.

 

I was there.  I saw it.  My whole section saw it.

 

My belief is that Cam needs to do better and can do better and should do better...that the issues he has costs the team  as large of chunks of yardage as he gains...and this  can be fixed with coaching.

 

Until he demonstrates that he can handle a closing blitz, he will see more of the same, from much better teams than the Jets.

 

If that makes me a 'saw what I wanted to see person'.  I'm ok with that.

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Some 'fans' put their money where their mouth is....get sick of the 'will never be happy' statements.

 

I was there.  I saw it.  My whole section saw it.

 

My belief is that Cam needs to do better and can do better and should do better...that the issues he has costs the team  as large of chunks of yardage as he gains...and this  can be fixed with coaching.

 

Until he demonstrates that he can handle a closing blitz, he will see more of the same, from much better teams than the Jets.

 

If that makes me a 'saw what I wanted to see person'.  I'm ok with that.

 

Here's a crazy idea. How about you supply some facts, or evidence with these statements that you are just blindly throwing out?

 

I offered you real statistics, which you completely ignored by the way. Cam had one bad overthrow under pressure on a screen. If you think this team would have been in as many close games as we have since 2011 without Cam Newton, I'm sorry, but you don't know football.

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Cam does seem to hold on to the ball too long. RP is right.. he had open receivers he did not see or did not throw soon enough and then they were covered. He also is waiting too long to take off running when needed. Both of those things evident from the stands. Best pass I thought was drilled to Olsen and when Cam let the ball go Olsen had not yet turned around. Want to see more of that. Cam needs to make quicker decisions. He is making the O line look worse than they are.

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