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Dorsey's dropping the ball as QB Coach.


MechaZain

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Not to wash Cam's hands completely clean, and maybe I'm ignorant on the job description, but isn't throwing mechanics training basic QB coaching? 

 

I know Dorsey's new to the gig, but imagine you're him. You have a talented quarterback and the one major flaw in his game is he overthrows receivers or keeps the ball too high often. He actually play his best when he's forced to call plays himself at the end of the game and is short on time. What exactly are you doing as QB coach if Throwing Motion 101 stuff continues to be a chronic issue for your quarterback?

 
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Cam has been a lot better accuracy wise this year, other than a few games.

His accuracy on short and intermediate passes has improved, but he has definitely had a poor year throwing downfield. If he gets that back to where he was his first two years, he'll be lethal.

 

I worry that the big Superbowl ring he'll have on his hand after the season will negatively impact his throwing mechanics though.  :D

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His accuracy on short and intermediate passes has improved, but he has definitely had a poor year throwing downfield. If he gets that back to where he was his first two years, he'll be lethal.

I worry that the big Superbowl ring he'll have on his hand after the season will negatively impact his throwing mechanics though. :D

Perhaps consider the personnel around him and the change in offensive philosophy. Cam's strength coming out of college was his deep ball accuracy... you don't just lose that. I believe it's the shift in philosophy.

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Look, you're not going to turn Newton into a Brady / Brees / Manning type passer. That's just not who he is.

Your best prototype here is Brett Favre, and from what I've seen, that's the model they're following.

Favre has a ring, and so do others like him. Newton could get there too.

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Not to wash Cam's hands completely clean, and maybe I'm ignorant on the job description, but isn't throwing mechanics training basic QB coaching? 

 

I know Dorsey's new to the gig, but imagine you're him. You have a talented quarterback and the one major flaw in his game is he overthrows receivers or keeps the ball too high often. He actually play his best when he's forced to call plays himself at the end of the game and is short on time. What exactly are you doing as QB coach if Throwing Motion 101 stuff continues to be a chronic issue for your quarterback?

 

This season is his best completion pct, best td to int ratio, best passer rating and most tds. 

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Cam's mechanics when not pressured have been pretty consistently good until just recently. I suspect his toe/ankle are still tender and he can't push off on throws the way he would like to.

 

As to Dorsey, it looks to me like he's doing a great job and has excellent rapport with Cam.

 

Aside: A few fans seem to have trouble handling success. I see almost as many negative threads after wins as after losses. What's up with that?

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Perhaps consider the personnel around him and the change in offensive philosophy. Cam's strength coming out of college was his deep ball accuracy... you don't just lose that. I believe it's the shift in philosophy.

 

We also dont have a deep threat WR that can just catch any ball thrown up in the air

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