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Genuinely livid with this 4Q performance.

No, he will be drafted on Day 2 or 3.

Agreed. At least that’s where he SHOULD be drafted. Someone will overdraft him, but he was exposed at UGA last year.

Whether the start time had anything to do with it or not, duke is getting their ass kicked. 14-0 16 plays ran to 4. 133 yards to *checks notes* one. One yard.

All talent. Front office, coaching, and players. We suck at it across the board.

yep. Finding talent has been our achilles heel. Bryce has no talent. If you put him on any other team, he would still suck.

Seriously need a betting forum...

The complete lack of effective talent evaluation is the real disease.

Been saying it for awhile. We've churned through GMs, HCs, QBs, and players in general. The one constant is David Tepper.

Beck is likely to be a Day 2 or 3 guy.

Schlereth calling us back to back....somebody call up Morgan! Schlereth got that dawg in him!

I was just thinking — if Bryce had been the #1 overall pick without the massive trade-up, there wouldn’t be nearly this much anger and resentment toward him. The problem isn’t Bryce himself; it’s what Scott Fitterer gave up to get him and how the front office completely mismanaged the assets that followed. The picks from the Christian McCaffrey trade — one of our few major opportunities to rebuild with young talent — were essentially wasted. The second-rounder was used on Jonathan Mingo, The third and fourth-round picks were packaged to move up for DJ Johnson, a 25-year-old rookie who looked like a miss from day 1. That’s brutal roster management. And when you add in other misses like Trevon Wallace and Xavier Legette—guys who were supposed to be athletic difference-makers but haven’t moved the needle—it just compounds the issue. Combine that with a string of awful free-agent signings (Hurst, Chark, Bozeman regressing, etc.), and it’s no wonder the offense looks like a mess. And this goes beyond Fitterer — it’s a scouting department problem too. For years, the Panthers’ evaluations have been inconsistent and reactive. They’ve chased traits and combine numbers over production and football IQ. The same front office that identified DJ Johnson as a third-round target somehow passed on multiple plug-and-play starters at positions of need. When your scouting process keeps missing on mid-round talent — the backbone of good teams — no quarterback can save you. The lack of depth and development across this roster is the real indictment. None of these failures are Bryce’s fault directly. But when the entire team looks lifeless, the narrative circles back to him. He was supposed to be the “force multiplier,” the “point guard” who elevates everyone else. Problem is, there’s not much “force” around him to multiply, and that style of quarterback play only works when the infrastructure is solid — coaching, protection, and playmakers. Look at the 49ers for comparison. If San Francisco didn’t have elite coaching, culture, and roster talent, that Trey Lance trade would be seen as one of the biggest front-office blunders ever. The difference is they had the organization to survive it. At least Bryce is serviceable — Lance isn’t even on their roster anymore. Put Bryce in the 49ers’ system and he’s probably putting up Brock Purdy-like numbers. The bottom line is this: the dysfunction in Carolina didn’t start with Bryce Young, and it sure hasn’t ended with him. This is a franchise problem — years of poor drafting, weak scouting, short-sighted trades, and constant turnover. The common denominator through all of it? David Tepper. Until the culture, patience, and football operations at the top change, it won’t matter who the quarterback is.

I really like Carson Beck’s talent level. Needs to make better decisions sometimes but I think he could be really good. Looks like Miami is for real. Pitt might be interesting at the end of the year but they almost certainly win out

I'll tell you at the end of the year. Right now he's a game manager.

Really sad a 69 year has to door dash in the richest country in the world. And deal with this idiot on top of it which I’m sure wasn’t the first.

Beck might be a QB to consider depending on our position in the draft. Guy is 6'4 and 220 lbs with a good arm. That was an accurate long throw that the current QB could never complete.

That was one heck of a call that was well executed, and a great deep ball by Beck and Miami.

Beck just threw a deep ball better than any I've seen Bryce young throw

There's a lot of things I'd take over Bryce young at this point. Too bad our dumbass owner forced this on us

Would you take Mark Sanchez over Bryce Young? I would even when he is 38 and been used as a pin cushion

This is ultimately a sinking and floating turds argument.

Fưck the San Francisco 49ers.

I wanted McCarthy the first time he was available and was told by the Huddle "No more retreads" then we got Matt Rhule. FYI, of the 6 finalist, Rhule was my #6, so....

Somehow this is Bryce Young's fault

Texas did get UTEP, Sam Houston, and San Jose State. I mean, I concede Clemson should be in the convo still but it would be nice to pass the official title on. I thankfully didn't get to watch Clemson and won’t get to the watch the Panthers either tomorrow with a soccer tournament