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I didn't even notice that LOL

Yeah I know there was some discussion on his contract around here but it sounds to me like that IS NOT a worry right now. Great guy. If he can stay healthy, he and TMac will be monsters out there next year.

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The one thing I did pick up on was Smitty wanted out the day Cam was drafted. He requested a trade. Sound like 3 years later, the situation was the same. So at the end of the day, while everyone thinks Gman did him wrong, and the way he was released may have been, he may have also been doing exactly what Smitty asking for.

And then what? 3 more years to develop said qb ?

He should be, at minimum his OC seat. His offense and situational awareness are some of the worst I've ever seen from any coach and that includes Matt Rhule. He's slow to react, he's not creative at all, and defenses can feast on his predictability. I think the HC seat is warm but will get hot really quickly if this team doesn't step it up, and by a lot. We need more Dallas, Miami and Atlanta offense instead of Seattle, SF and Tampa (2). Hell we even barely squeaked by the Jets. He's got to be better or he's going to be gone.

I am not thinking he has that in the best order. O’Connell should be in front of Canales, I think for sure. Maybe Lafleur, Packers underperformed a bit. Maybe Quinn. Redskins had a rough year. Schottenheimer? Don’t see it absent some sort of collapse. Not sure there is a need to put ten names down, really. Re Canales, if it goes bad early, it is likely Bryce doing his annual ritual. Which is one of the big subplots we will be looking at next year.

This guy is a baller! You can tell by how he dissects plays. Already really liked him, but now I'm loving him! Smart, humble, all around good guy...reminds me of me, LOL. take aways: Give Bryce a ton of credit. Like a lot. When asked about his contract. "I'm not going anywhere. I want to play for this team for as long as I can." YIPPEE! Gave love to TMac, Horn, Tremayne, even Hunter and Theilen. ONE NAME CONVEINENTLY LEFT OFF THE LIST.

Yeah bad angle for her. I just watched something on this and I didn’t know so maybe someone else didn’t know either… NFL policy these days on this is they don’t hand out any discipline until the legal process is complete. The option mentioned was ‘paid leave’ in the interim. Falcons are likely going to have to pay him but not have him, and he will probably be able to afford his attorneys.

It isn't about looking bad, it's about proving the person that made the draft pick is right. Do I have definitive proof? No. What i do have are a series of events that when placed in order make no sense unless the purpose is to protect Bryce from being outshone by another QB and benched/cut. 1. Hiring of Reich to build his offense. Darnold is released and Reich gets to pick a shiny new QB to work with. After all, we signed him to a six year contract, so it's fair to assume he would have major influence in that decision. 2. Bryce interviews privately with Tepper, where he wows them with his ability to break down a play over dinner. By all accounts, Bryce is a very likeable, charming guy being interviewed. Even brought up here recently after an interview he did. 3. The sudden emergence of the S2 as the new "it" test to determine QB prowess after it's revealed Purdy, Mr Irrelevant himself, scored high and displaced the 9ers costly 1st round pick, Trey Lance. Bryce scores off the charts, and Stroud's results are "leaked" and he's publicly shamed as an imbecile going into the draft process. 4. Bryce is selected 1st overall, a QB that in no way fits Reich's QB type. Frank becomes disinterested, probably because he was lied to about picking his guy, doesn't appear to put much effort into developing an offense for Bryce, round peg, square hole deal. 5. An obviously unprepared Bryce is named starter, and goes on to have one of the worst rookie seasons in NFL history. The only game he didn't play, Dalton, in Seattle in the rain with Zavala giving up 14 pressures in that game, made the offense look alive, something we hadn't seen from Bryce. Bryce returns, offense goes back to crap. 6. Season 2, new HC, a QB whisperer to fix Bryce. Dalton returns and the only other camp competition is Plummer, who looks like he might actually be the worst QB not named Jimmy Claussen to ever get a number in camp. Bryce named starter again after leading the team yo the 1st overall pick, which was part of the package we traded away to get him. 7. Bryce is benched, Dalton comes in, starts 5 games, less than 100k yards, 7tds 6 ints, and makes it pretty clear he's not the long term answer for anything, not even being a backup. Bryce returns after Dalton's car crash and finishes the season playing better, but still not enough to guarantee he's the future. 8. This past off-season, Dalton gets a 2 year, almost fully guaranteed deal, when there are FA backups available who at least have potential if Bryce gets benched or injured again. One of those backups actually put up better numbers in 5 less games this year than Bryce, in case you were wondering. Then, lo and behold, Plummer is brought back for training camp. The guy so bad people were calling for him to be cut for the hot dog guy, or maybe Terry Bradshaw, the senile version on Fox. Plummer is cut again, shocker, and away we go into 2025. 9. Bryce starts off the year in typical fashion, lays a couple duds, then gets bailed out by Rico running wild for over 500 yards against the 2 worst defenses in the NFL. The entire season is up and down, with one exceptional game against Atlanta followed by a sewer plunge in Seattle. Multiple opportunities to win the division or win the big game when needed. Didn't show up for those. Finally breaks 3k yards for the season on a Standford band prayer. We make the playoffs when Tampa loses, since we couldn't do it ourselves. Bryce has a playoff game highlighted by a few beautiful throws and a final drive that looked like a deer in the headlights. 4 and out, 3 timeouts left unused. Now you could say that's a whole lot of nothing, but I see a whole lot of shielding to keep a bottom tier performing QB shielded from any real competition in the QB room. And I was right about Dalton. One game when Bryce was injured, and he looked worse than done. Phillip Rivers played better after being on his couch for 3 years. And let's not forget, Bryce also refuses to do anything about his footwork which is constantly being brought up. He says it's fine. So why did they pick up the 5th year? Who knows. I still say they should have played him on the final year of his contract as a one year prove it deal. But when you look at everything and the way it's transpired, I think it's pretty easy to see that someone at the top has been out to prove he made the right choice and that is David Tepper. So in response to the original question i commented on, what has Bryce done to guarantee the starting spot to the point of not even putting a viable backup at the number 2 spot or bring legitimate prospect to camp? Not a damn thing Edit: And let's not forget, we're dealing with an owner that's trying to drive marketing with a shiny new workout facility, and now a shiny new QB. The most cerebral since Peyton Manning. You can't market him if he's on the bench.

I held a similar opinion, ie he was gonna play how he wanted to play. So that’s the offense you end up with. Even if you would rather take a more traditional approach it would hard because, he was going to play how he wanted to play. I thought he saw himself as the number one weapon. Did I want a more diverse attack with more pocket passes and less running and option type plays? Yep. Chudzinski’s 2nd year here I thought he was getting too cute and chasing a HC job, which he got, but I would like to have seen him committed to running an offense he built around Cam. I think we missed out on that type of opportunity, getting Shula. But one thing about him, Ron didn’t have to worry about losing his OC every couple of years to a HC job. Lol.

Cam wanted the ball on the Goal line. Yet somehow Rivera gets the blame. Sorry- that gets old. I knew from the moment we drafted Cam he was going to have a short career. It's his playing style and willingness to put his body on the line.

Worth noting no coach under Tepper has ever had a 10-win season, so setting that as the expectation would be foolish (especially considering the first-place schedule, OL injuries, etc.). This year was the high point thus far in Tepper's tenure. 6-7 wins seems likely next year and if that's the case, probably hot seat for the following season, but not getting canned. Kind of depends on what Bryce does.

I'll say 9-8. Week 18 game was rigged as all hell so the next day could get more eyeballs. Penalties wiped out Panthers points, penalties gifted Bucs points. I don't even consider the record 8-9 because it's so illegitimate.

He’s in a weird spot because I don’t think 8 wins gets you in the playoffs 2 years in a row. So he has to improve or he’s going to back track and depending how much he back tracks, he could be fired. 0-4 wins- likely fired before season over 4-7 wins- depends what happened, injuries, etc 7-9 wins -probably okay depending on how season ended. Losing a ton in November/December might get him fired. 10+ wins- no worries

No absolutely not. This was essentially a 10-7 team. Refs rigged the last Tampa and Saints game.

I don't think he is on the hot seat. I think he has one more year to improve, unless next season is absolutely horrible.

That is interesting thanks.

Wilson says he will be back, he's just not going to sit on the sidelines the rest of the season. He'll be back for the ACC tournament

https://www.espn.com/blog/cincinnati-bengals/post/_/id/33304/how-joe-burrows-improved-velocity-could-have-bengals-thinking-playoffs There is the article talking about him increasing his velocity. Apparently he was the 3rd worst starting QB at deep passes his rookie year. I'd also argue that drafting Chase greatly helped his deep ball (again I think it's more of a WR stat). He did appear to increase the speed in which the ball was coming out by tweaking a few things. You'd think OSU or LSU would have tried this with him in college...

I am kind of there. Without knowing what FA or the draft look like, just looking at what is there now? Hard to see where the two more wins are coming from. The Icky injury is a major setback. We are worse than the team that went 8-9 right now. Ask me in May, maybe I give a more optimistic take.

I'm guessing it's just their rating on throws that deep. So volume wouldn't really matter. This is why it's a flawed stat, but also any mistake is going to weigh heavier on lower volume.

I would put Stafford in there for sure. If I eyeballed the best. It isn’t really something I follow league wide. It got my attention here because we were so downfield averse. And just off of my impressions from watching, that has been the case starting in 2023. It stood out like a sore thumb to me. As far as why Bryce rates so high, off so relatively few attempts? The simple intuitive answer would be something like, he throws them when they are wide ass open, coverage is blown, doesn’t take risks, that sort of thing. I have seen some nice throws but is very little wow in it outside of a handful. It is kind of a mystery.