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Probably not. Do the picks that bounce of XLs hands count though? We can throw those in for free to sweeten the deal.

Cleveland traded for Watson long after the incident. His issues have been bad play and injury since then. Why would that relieve Cleveland of financial obligations? That poo happened when he was a Texan. There was a full year a public drama and legal proceedings in the media and then Cleveland traded for him knowing all of of It.

So sad how many people want to stay bitter.

It's a shame he wasn't first ballot. There have been several great LBs to play this game but I don't believe there was anyone like Luke. His ability to diagnose plays before they happened was very unique to him. Almost every year when they posted the top 100 it was one thing every player said about him. Great Honor for LLLUUUUUKKKKKEEEE

The cop side aside, if there is even the tiniest bit of evidence about him ramming her car multiple times with his own to try and run her off the road, there is no way they'll be able to play him as the victim unless they say she had a gun and shot at him before he did it. If there is ever any public evidence of that or him hitting the cop with his car, he'll never play another snap in the NFL. Teams can sell second chances to their fans with no public evidence, but if there is any public evidence of DA in today's day and age, that player is never stepping into an NFL locker room again, as they shouldn't.

Historically elite? They werent the best defense that season They were 4th in points allowed that season just 2 ahead of us with less than 1 point per game separating. They were 2nd in yards in 15 but there were 6 teams this season alone that gave up fewer yards per game.

Miami is looking to lure Derrick Carr out of retirement, who said he's interested for the right scenario https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16vDzdLtFp/

100% chance he's much, much better than Bryce Young. 0% chance we bring him in.

fair I still wouldn't trade up for him

Not a fan of drafting an edge rusher this year. They usually take a year or two to develop if they're not a Top 5 pick type of prospect. Would much rather make an edge rusher our top FA signing and then use the draft to find a starting LB or DB (or LT if one falls to us given Ickey's status). Just seems like the better allocation of resources this offseason, much easier to find an impact MLB late in the 1st round than a pass rusher, just as spending big money on an edge rusher is likely to get you a better ROI than big money on a LB.

This guy is cooked regardless of Strato insulting the appearance of the victim.

Did you read any of the articles?

Bain/Brown would be tough. Rotating in the other guys as well

which was why giving him a fresh 2 year deal was fuging stupid last year. What was the point?

Don’t think Bain is there at 11. But he’s arguably a top 5 prospect.

This is why I hated the Dalton deal last year. He wasn't good in his stint before when Bryce was benched, and we signed him to 2 years almost fully guaranteed when he already had one foot in the career grave and the other on a banana peel. I'm still of the mind that they decided to sign the 5th year last season and signed Dalton to keep Young comfortable until he was finished with at least year 4. I'm going to laugh like hell though when they extend Dalton another year after they announce Bryce's 5th year option. They'll call it a restructuring for cap relief but we'll know what it really is. Keep that QB room competition free.

Yeah I would say if they had an out they would obviously have taken it. Just seems like these big deals should have some clauses in them for criminal type behavior. I guess his exposure was civil more than criminal…. the victims more interested in settlement money than seeing him punished with a conviction. Like I said I haven’t really followed and I guess I am saying it a shame he still gets paid out on that deal. That the team has to give it up, and that he profits so much from doing harm.

Now if we could package XL and 19 to move up to 11, I'd be all for that. Heck, I'm sure we've got a copy of Hurney's notes on how not to bust on your 1st round pick in a desk somewhere to include in the deal.

Crosby is already expensive and about to be 30. I'd prefer the younger cheaper option. Thibs didn't get a ton of sacks this year but his pressures were up (might make him a little cheaper). I really think he is one of the reasons Burns got so many sacks. The new contract coming up is another reason he could be traded for less like Burns was for us, but that may fall more into next year.

Crosby is already expensive and about to be 30. I'd prefer the younger cheaper option. Thibs didn't get a ton of sacks this year but his pressures were up (might make him a little cheaper). I really think he is one of the reasons Burns got so many sacks. The new contract coming up is another reason he could be traded for less like Burns was for us, but that may fall more into next year.

Howell is obviously my preference but I wouldn't mind Mariota or Trubisky if we want to go the more established vet backup type guy. We just have to realize that we need to sign someone who might make Bryce look bad in camp by comparison. It is what it is.

It came dangerously close to cashing out. LOL

If that were true, I doubt he'd still be on the roster.

Morgan and Schoen are buds, socially. Beane too. So looking at NYG as a trading partner makes some sense. I think his history with Seattle could include them as well. If anyone is getting scapegoated in Buffalo we might could get a good deal. I haven’t really followed the Bills but they will have a new DC I think. So some change there is maybe an opportunity.

I haven’t followed the tawdry tale of Watson and his massage therapy, basically at all. Being ignorant, I have to wonder how that stuff doesn’t relieve his employers from their financial obligations. Seems like that is a ‘for cause’ scenario.