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Almost as funny as Carolina Panther homers before a season kickoffs My preseason calls under Tepper have played out at a high percentage. It's so easy. When thinks smell odd....they 99% of the time are just that. Just go with that.

Very fair point re: when all 3 were playing at the same time. Quick count of weeks 1, 2, 12 - 15, 17, and 18 (AT out 4 - 10, XL out 14, Bryce out three as well (3, 4, 6), week 11 was a bye) actually came out to AT 51, XL 46 over that period. AT was definitely Bryce's most reliable WR, but it wasn't like the ball was being forced to Thielen at the expense of XL's development. EDIT: Got curious about Coker and the only game that AT + XL + Coker were on the field together were vs. DAL, @TB, and @ATL. Targets for those three games totaled out to for 19 for AT, 17 for XL, 15 for Coker. Those AT numbers are going to likely go predominantly to TMac

I thought he started to develop good chemistry with Coker over the last half of the season.

To put it in perspective, this is a deep ball thrower. Notice how the efficiency basically has minimal drop off regardless of range. This is Bryce Young The other QB is Joe Burrow.

It really isn't though If you were to go out to a bar every week of the season, even to just watch one batch of games, i.e. just the 1 pm or just the 4 pm, and spent only $30 a week, you're looking at $540 bucks, $510 if you're just going for the 17 weeks your team is playing, assuming no national games. Also, from past experience, it's hard to spend only 30 bucks if you're at a bar for 3+ hours to watch the game. Even just a small appetizer, a meal, and say 2 beers was going to run you $40ish, and that was back in 2019 when I used to go to BWW to watch all our games pre the Covid year when I just started finding streams and stuck with that until YouTube got the package from DirecTV. At $450 for a full season, to be able to watch every game, to be able to make your own quad box, to be able to switch between the sound for any game (at a bar in Michigan, I would never get to hear the commentary on our games)... It's really not a bad deal, and that's if you're only watching your team's games. If you're a fantasy football junkie like myself, then it's a flat out steal, as depending on your TV set up, you can get every game from your fantasy matchup playing. I do a projector with a quad box on it, a local game on the TV, and then if needed, I can put another game on my laptop and another on my phone.

He has looked worse than Bryce has looked on his worse days since entering the nfl, maybe he will do something for the panthers but trask or zappe woule have been preferred.

College Homer's are hilarious

Reporters almost never talk about guys struggling. It was all sunshine and rainbows about Bryce and that defense last year during camp. It’s just what they do. To me it was telling when the Renfrow mentions dropped significantly halfway through camp. I know some of his family so I’ll get the real story sooner or later. I know it was always his dream to play here, so I’d think he’d do it if he could.

Frankly it’s all a massive rip off. I should be able to get only Panthers games for like $50 a year

I like it

It was in the updated roster thread. All signings and waver pickups are in there.

Great move Panthers. Hope he is proven to take the #2 spot. "Keep Pounding"

this is where the Bryce defense goes off the rails for me. We all know Bryce isn't a deep ball chunk play QB. He doesn't have those physical tools and he doesn't play the game w/ that mindset. It simply is not what he is. Then you got folks going essentially going, well actually Shaq was a very efficient 3 pt shooter this season. He shot 50% from behind the arc and Steph Curry was only at 48%. So yeah, Shaq is a very effective 3 pt shooter. Don't say he isn't a 3 point shooter. Meanwhile, Shaq went 1 of 2 on the season and Steph shot 9343924 3s. Russell Wilson is a deep ball chunk QB. Baker is. Geno was his comeback season (best in the league that year I think is the correct call). That's the Canales pass tree. EVERY QB throws deep at some point. Arguing you can find a good grade when they went deep one week is just that. No one can argue Bryce plays the game like a young Wilson throwing f you hail marys downfield. Jake Delhomme fits Canales more than any Carolina Panther QB. Teddy Bridgewater can grade out efficiently on his deep passes. That doesn't make him a deep ball chunk QB. 2 totally different convos. It would be better for everyone IMO if our org accepted what the unicorn was and built a team around that given they invested so much in him.....which is the criticism I started day 1 when they put him in Frank Reich's offense. He didn't fit that. He doesn't fit the Canales tree either. NFL is about fit more than anything and it's what Carolina gets most wrong. We essentially run offenses we don't have the QB talent for and you can say the same w/ the 3-4 D. That's the Bryce era.

THE David Moore !?!?! We're saved. I expect TMac to have 200 catches, 3k yards, 20 TDs and be uncoverable this year with all the information he can get from watching our HoF WR David Moore.

I didn't see anyone post about this, we signed Hendon Hooker to our practice squad. With Dalton hurt and looking like shite, could he perhaps roll into the season as our backup?

lol I’m just going by what he stated when he was trying out for our team. He was driving to practice from his house. It’s really not worth arguing over though.

AT also came back to play with Bryce. You can't believe a goddamn word out of these guys mouths

Well that's my point, if he couldn't make the initial 53 here, he probably knows that if he signs with us, it's as a locker room mentor and he probably won't play much, if not even just being inactive on game days. If other teams are offering him a chance at real playing time, it's then which does he prefer, to be closer to his family or to actually get to play again. I can see why he'd need to talk it over with them

I believe he wanted to play here because it was so close to home. If he plays I would think it would be here to keep it easy in his family.

Well, also saw that there were other teams interested in him, so maybe the talking it over with his family is more about whether he wants to stay home in Carolina, or go play somewhere else where he might get more snaps.

+0.5 speed

We have ONE of seven who will not see the field on offense. Jimmy Horn also is more quick, than fast. He could probably have gone up to New England with Brady and been a puzzle fit, learning to run the Edelman, Dola, Welker route tree. He's not going to be asked to do that here. He's going to be asked to run a traditional route tree and just beat your man on your assigned route. The comp for Bryce was Mahomes. Mahomes and Reid play a lot of backyard style football with plays drawn up on the fly. Brady used to do this with his quick hitters. I get Bryce is going into year three, but man, you really have to adjust to your personnel. The team is still building as if we have a 6'4 QB starting and that's just not the case.

Yep. Always better to wait for the story to come out before overreacting. Now it looks like Moore was the only real vet we were able to keep in the WR room.

In fairness, AT missed several games last season. And so did Bryce. One would have to look specifically at games both of them played in to be accurate. Just looking at the last two games, XL had 14 targets, Thielen 12 and Coker 9, so at least for the last two games, your assessment appears to be correct.