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I was really hoping that we would be able to get that deal. Dang it.

Yep. Mutually looking out, not adversarial. It would show he wants to stay if he can come back. That is the culture we should hope to have. I am hoping our men making the evaluations will think of this, it is a little outside the box.

We had the same debate over burns and we all saw how that went. Horn is a great player no doubt. As a shutdown man corner he can be and has been elite. But.... He has a lengthy injury history from a variety of different injuries. The cb is definitely devalued in everos scheme and oc's can easily scheme away from horn. His play wasn't as elite last year. And he's not a great tackler. Any potential haul remains to be seen but if it's burns level you learn from history and pull the trigger

Your not taking a significant risk if you can get the guy after round 3. Matter of fact you shouldn't see him playing at all(outside QB sneaks and gadgets) unless something goes horribly wrong like Bryce goes down. At that point season is lost anyway. If you draft the best athlete possibly at the position ever that ability buys you time on a roster to develop the other tools. Athleticism is a safe floor for QBs.. can't find the right read? Run.. can't throw completely sucks run.. 70% of NFL QBs don't have that safety net. I'm saying take a late round pick get the superhuman and develop the guy see what happens your not banking on him taking Bryce job.. your banking on his floor which is better than any QB not Cam Newton or Michael Vick. Again taller and faster than all not Vick. Arm is in the same ball park. Except your not paying a premium pick to get the guy he isn't going where Vick Newton or Richardson is going. But he's better than Jalen Milrose right now. If I can get that in a horrible QB class for peanuts, I don't want to hear he's not ready to start or his passing needs work.. well yeah he's a day 3 pick. But his upside is higher than anyone in the class if you catch lightning in a bottle that's what late round picks are for. If he sucks it didn't cost you any thing but a damn pick you would have spent on say Jaden crumedy

Yeah his reckless talk is crazy like the heels haven't been the better franchise. Sent K out with two big losses

Yeah there are a couple of posts about that from last night, a few posts back in this thread. They had like, 1mil in cap space before that. He freed 8mil. They will likely be cutting a few more guys.

Good days eh? Such a blast. Boo, Riot, MadHatter, Igo would all swing by. We were the early birds.

They are getting McDuffie for 29th overall pick a few other low picks. I woulda traded Jaycee for that tbh

Not surprised they targeted McDuffie. Outside of the Carolinas Jaycee Horn is a fringe top 10 corner and even that's being kind.

The dream is dead. They traded for McDuffie from the Chiefs.

Sobering truth.

Look to many of u disagree I'm just gonna agree with guys who know ball efa56603b419b2af7eae2f133d5ed041.mp4

If you remember we beat the Rams without Horn. As a matter of fact he hasn’t been noticeable all season. And don’t tell me it’s because teams don’t throw his way because they do. He’s not irreplaceable.

I like Horn a great deal from a personal standpoint. But multiple things can be true at one time. While he is indeed talented. He is in no way shape or form worth top 3 corner money. And he got absolutely abused by our divisional arch rival last season. Just unacceptable. Then there is the reality that the 2025 Panthers were bottom of the league in pass rush win rate last season. How did a dominant pass rush work out for the last few Super Bowl champions? Honestly I would much rather see us direct our resources there. I'm not saying I would run to accept this offer but it would 1000% be under serious consideration and that should always be the case if we want to be a serious franchise.

What Super Bowl? It's played in early April. We have a more recent natty than y'all do and sent K packing for a poo to win a second since y'all's last.

I can. Beating Carolina is all that matters to them and you take away Wilson AND Veesaar from this roster and we're not much better than incredibly ass.

I know bunch don't like him which is understandable but hell even Bridges is only 27 with 5-6 years of prime play left. Ball - 24 Diabate - 24 Kalkbrenner - 24 Miller - 23 James - 23 Salaun - 20 Knueppel - 20 That's a lot of damn youth plus all the draft picks the next 7 years.

I don't know that doing an extension to get some cap relief would be having a player over a barrel. At this time, his recovery is unknown. An extension as previously described would give cap relief for us, time for Icky to fully recover without rushing back, and time to evaluate him once he does. If he is good to go, another extension reflecting that evaluation can always be done. I don't think that would destroy a locker room. I think it shows we're willing to working with players and put them and the team in a favorable position while recovering from major injury. This isn't a common situation with a major injury at the 5th year extension. I think it actually could sit well with agents and players that we take care of players.

You’ve fallen in love with an athletic player. He’s not a good qb and that’s what you draft him for.

We won’t have any real sense of his viability until the weather is cold, at the earliest. So you have to address the near term as if he is done. With maybe a little hedging. Moton’s exit being not too far off allows that because we can apply this year’s stopgap to that position. People are saying if he is diminished he be a guard, but if his athleticism is degraded to the point that he can’t be an OT, can he really just ‘be a guard’? This is a tough one.

First off, you never make your team better by getting a player over a barrel on contract negotiations. Kills the locker room. And you don't negotiate until you know what both sides have down the road. Otherwise, someone gets screwed. And that kills the locker room and/or the cap. Stay put, wait it out and see what we've got in the month and a half before the draft. A lot can happen between now and then.

Wow

.500 basketball in March is a beautiful sight.

The bare minimum is two first rd picks for Horn. Anything else should be ignored….

I am not sure what the true offer would be from the rams but if it is 2 firsts (thats the only way I even discuss it) then hell to the yes I am doing that and not thinking twice.