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The reason I hate the Sadiq link to us is as follows: -Shallow starting LT draft. We've got to sh1t or get off the pot. If we don't get a first round LT, it's a wasted pick to slow roll a developmental type later in the draft. -WRs might drop. If a legit WR drops to #19, why would we pass them up? -McNeil-Warren or Thienemen: We have got to upgrade safety. -Slot CB. We could upgrade over Smith Wade. -Better production TEs later in the draft. .

Kittle, McBride (actually had one great year), Kraft, Loveland, Kelce, LaPorta would all have to be exceptions which is now making the high production guys more of the exception. Look at Warren's stats before that final year he was featured in his offense. A fraction of the yards and 2 TDs over 3 years. That is my case and point. They featured this talented TE his senior year and his stats were amazing. TE's college receiving stats are tough to translate in the NFL.

I don't understand where this idea of Smith-Wade being an effective safety came from. I am all for adding a CB in the draft, but I want no part of Smith-Wade being anything more than a depth safety at best if we move him to safety. At the end of the day, Smith-Wade is a JAG, whether its at nickel or safety

I think it's less pushing him out the door and more making sure his knee can hold up and not overpaying him.

IF Smith-Wade moves to S, we could be adding a CB. Mind blown. Not many people are talking DT/DE I see movement for a LB. Up or down. Crystal ball getting foggy--image of a.....Can't tell. Gone.

Players like Kittle and McBride are exceptions to the rule. And they were drafted very late because of how nonexistent their stats were in college. Big difference between taking a chance on a day 3 pick than a 1st round pick

To be clear, I'm not in love with him as a prospect. I'd greatly prefer his teammate Thieneman on the other side of the ball of we're drafting Oregon in the 1st. But I get why a lot of people are high on him as a prospect. Personally, I think he's boom or bust and I'd prefer a guy who is at least theoretically a "safer" pick. We can't afford a bust in the 1st three rounds. We don't have to draft All-Pros but we need some solid contributors with those picks and should probably shy away from boom/bust guys. Our roster needs just don't allow for the risk. It's a different story if you're a contender with a glaring need or two and you think a boom/bust guy might put you over the top if he hits. That's a different story.

So Loveland wasn't worth the pick? His final season was on par with Sadiq's. Sadiq is actually the better blocker between the two as well. Warren has twice a many receptions for twice as many yards and the same TDs as Sadiq. He was used more and force fed the ball in PSU's offense. @LinvilleGorge explained Sadiq's situation pretty well.

Its not a comp it's a similar situation but costs a 1st. The kid cant block and has short arms, his production equals 25 yrds/gm. That's not a 1st round pick.

What kind of washing machine?

People keep saying Sadiq wasn't targeted while failing to recognize that he literally had the most targets and receptions for Oregon this year. The guy had a god awful YRR and YAC (like bottom 50% of TEs in college football and worse than many TEs that won't even get drafted) while also having a drop rate north of 10%. His receiving yard total was crap in large part because of his failure to do anything after the catch. From the tape I have seen of him, he only has straight line speed - he is surprisingly way slower than he should be laterally. This is one of the reasons he was primarily used as a seam and screen TE (also solid success with slants) - he just doesn't have a quick break when running a corner, out, or dig route and badly rounds these routes off (this will lead to QBs throwing INTs). I get he had a crazy combine and the dude is a freak athlete, but he has so many red flags, it's hard to keep track of all of them. Just too many unknowns to draft him in the 1st IMO

I think the most promising TE is the NC State kid. Right now I wouldn't take any them before the 4th round. I could be convinced there's nothing left worth taking in the 3rd and take him then but that depends on who's left on the board.

He had significantly more production this year than Ian Thomas had in his entire college career and they're not even in the same universe athletically. I mean, anyone in the draft can end up busting for a variety of reasons but not gonna sugarcoat it, that's a really dumb player comp.

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I am with you-hate it. Kiper is the biggest scam I have ever seen. We could do better.

Yes, those are 1st round TEs worth the pick. Otherwise, minus those types of credentials, draft a guy who can really contribute and help out the team.

Production vs. traits. Panthers love them some guys with traits and that is what worries the crap out of me. Why do you think we kept Ian Thomas around for so long? He had traits, but could never gets those traits to translate into production.

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Who is the best TE this draft?

TE in general is a tough position to evaluation on "production." So much depends on system, usage, QB etc... You have Bowers and Warren (for one year) that really tipped the scale on receiving stats. Kittle's college stats weren't crazy, neither were Kelce's, McBride had one great year at Colorado St with 3 meh years. Tucker Kraft didn't light it up at a small school either. Sadiq is clearly an explosive receiving threat who can block well. It's on the staff of whoever drafts him to develop him and use him right.

He's not even the best TE in this draft. He's massively overhyped. Ian Thomas 2.0.

Don't get fooled. Oregon's offense is all about spreading the ball around. Sadiq was their leader in catches and TD receptions, and #2 in receiving yardage. They've only had two 1000 yard receivers since 2020 and both of them were in 2023 so they still didn't have that one clear cur #1 go to guy. Receivers don't go to Oregon to put up gaudy stats, they go there because they know there not gonna get buried and they'll get opportunities to have balls come their direction.

Gonna go with Miss(ter) Jackson...

He's probably going in the 2nd round. Every year somebody falls and he has sill but I doubt he goes in the 1st honestly.