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This is what you need if the canes are going to keep winning. Your stars to be leaders in points and goals…

I’m all out of Pie! Both literally and physically

He actually could be bought out/cut only one season left at 4m salary. Doesn't make sense but he could be.

We need Freddie to beat the Caps... period When the guys have to play passive to cover Kochetkov it neuters the offense.... we got lucky yesterday that our forecheck took over so much they just never got the puck.

I like the fact Bryce scouted him for us…. You can tell Bryce and T-Mac clicked. Both grew up in the same area and have a lot in common and they both been talking about each other nonstop lol. You want that kind of locker room chemistry in mid-season but Bryce has been putting in work already. I bet you Bryce will spend a ton of time working on timing with these guys during offseason. It might take few games for defense to create chemistry and trust but offense should be good.

We will go far if Jarvis, Aho and Svechnikov can come up big in the moments we need the big boys too.... nice to see Aho and Svechnikov not leaving it all on jarvy

Over 30 coming off a torn Achilles is rough. I'm not surprised. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him in and giving him a workout to see if he could help us.

Back in the good old days.

I lived in Evergreen for 14 years and never made it to Shelby's but in all fairness I fuging HATED Denver.

This dude has been talking us in circles for months

OK, so we knew all along that TMac was our pick. 1. Fantastic job hiding it! Don't play poker with DMo. 2. Theilen's pay bump in March makes more sense now. A savvy vet to mentor Tmac, Horn,(rookies) XL (1 yr NFL & basically 1 yr college experience), and Coker (limited playtime last season).

I also think there's a locker room element here. Shaq is and was an excellent person and leader. He's pretty much been the face of the franchise in the post Cam/Luke/Greg/TD era. I'm not saying Shaq is similar to 89, but Cam didn't come into his own as a leader until 89 was gone, and I love Steve Smith. I'm not sure Shaq can stick around long enough to be part of the next good run. We lacked leadership on defense last year in his absence. Need someone to step up into that role. Even on a team friendly deal, I'm not sure we bring him back, and I mean that in the most complimentary way I can say it.

I actually like that we made the decision early. Production is more valuable than the underwear olympics in my humble opinion. Use that pre-draft time to determine things like character and work ethic.

You are absolutely correct. We were speculating at the time. The UC news dropped yesterday (to my knowledge). That's great news. That said, he did have a devastating concussion that derailed his 2022 season, which is why we were speculating.

When the panthers are bad, we sell a shockingly low number of jerseys, and options become limited. In the good years, we had a lot of different options. I think T-Mac is going to have to play well on the field for his jersey to get produced in the FUSE template.

Torn achilles. The reason he was out more than half of last season.

it's not the only way to be a threat, it's certainly important for certain roles in an offense and for certain type players and offenses. as is the ability to get open quickly and generate easy throws. as far as Renfrow goes, I have consistently said he is sort of his own thing and not really in comp w/ others here. It's a niche role/job. Anyone talking about something else from him isn't me. Just depends if we want to do what he does and if he can still do it. as far as AT goes, yeah, he does lower our ceiling given the % of our offense that goes through him and his limitations at this stage in his career. He should be a roleplayer, much like Renfrow should be if we want to insert what he does into the O....not an O being run through him. Renfrow isn't going to lower the ceiling if used correctly. Niche assignments to move chains. It's like a short yardage RB that comes in to pick a random play. Renfrow is best at that 3rd and 4 type scenario IMO. AT lowers the ceiling because we build the pass game off an old WR that shouldn't be the focal point of a pass attack. Not to mention, Bryce Young is practically tailor made to get the ball in the hands of YAC players. So you need those type on the field.

Because he isn't a help to anyone.

why hasnt any other team tried signing him?

I agree. Father Time is undefeated. Linebacker is a physical position, and Shaq's injuries are piling up. Sometimes you have to just know your time to hang'em up. I don't think anyone should denigrate Shaq's leadership or his history with the team, but that's all in the past. If it's week 4 and we're down all our LBs, sure, bring him in. But for camp and the season, we need youth. Jewell is the elder statesman here, but even he's had his fair share of injuries. So at this point, I'd rather live with youth and mistakes while they learn instead of older vets who will get hurt more frequently.

Look, I love Shaq and have cheered for him since Day 1. I'd love to see him back but those injuries were all pretty major and they started coming one after another. That's usually the sign for a professional athlete that it's time to turn the page. I think he's been an excellent linebacker throughout his career and when he took to the field beside Luke and TD, he was very much a man among equals there. I think that sadly, it is time for a new page for him, just like those other stalwarts. But please, ask him to come back and retire as a Panther. We'd be honored by him if he did.

he doesn't blink. that's the problem.

I was thinking Charles Johnson.

It was important to win this and get some rest, especially for Freddie. Lets pray he can come back next series and be ready to go or else I dont see how we are going to be able to play like last night for every game in order to cover for Kooch. They will be golfing sooner rather than later if he cant come back.

Well, I am not in the camp that thinks Wallace is the future either. I ultimately would understand the decision even without the injury, if perhaps not completely agree.