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I agree here. Falcons won't lay down. Tampa SHOULD win. However, it is a short week and both teams need this game to be played different ways. Tampa needs to have time to scheme and keep this game fast paced, Atlanta needs this to be a physical heavy run slobberknocker which is more likely to happen with just 3 days. Keep in mind, Raheem should probably be fired tomorrow but won't be because it's a short week, he can save some grace and coach for his job Thursday. I wouldn't be surprised to see him be super aggressive on calls all night. I worry about the Saints as well. I really hope our week of rest to get healthy and realign focus outweighs the risk of us getting lazy again. Hopefully, the last time we played them was a wake up call and they come in motivated and pissed off to prove a point. However, the Saints are having fun shitting on everyone and I would not be surprised if it was a repeat. Somehow I feel us and the Bucs will both find a way to lose.

Man Mahomes with the pick... Texans offense needs to wake the fug up

1) This article is from the middle of the 2024 season. There was no season that ended with 202.8 YPG. By the end of the season, passing numbers had bounced up to 217. We shared those numbers here a few times. The fact that from Oct to end of season numbers went up by ~14 yards suggests we'll see a bounce up this year too. 2) The article you're referencing is from 2016 onwards... My numbers were not, just last few years. That's the time period we're talking about. 3) There is DEFINITELY a long term trend down. My comment was regarding it is unlikely I see teams changing strategies with regards to QBs because the numbers have been pretty consistent for the last 4 years.

That hit was nasty wow

Decided to look at the BIG drop off was 2021 -> 2022... I do remember people saying the same thing last year, I think that the last few games some players had tons of yards and pulled the average up. We'll see if that happens again

Looking at only the top passers only, it would appear they haven't changed but when you look at the NFL overall, they have. Here is a link to an ESPN article discussing that subject: Why passing numbers are down From that article, the passing numbers ince 2016 have gradually declined from 250.9 to 202.8

He's not looking good in the 2nd half

Cam Ward is a rookie, Jayden Daniels has been injured all year, Penix has missed several weeks, Baker Mayfield is way above the average in a bunch of league stats, Bo Nix is top third in a bunch of them, Trevor Lawrence and Michael Penix are probably average NFL starters and their teams may indeed move on from them, and Caleb Williams is still unknown 2 years in. Cam Ward is the only one of those that is basically worse than Bryce in every stat (other than Y/G, lol, where he is barely ahead). So again which stats is Bryce at / above the league average? I know which he is, do you?

Stroud is sailing everything

Well than so are Baker Mayfield, Jayden Daniels, Bo Nix, Michael Penix, Trevor Lawrence, Cam Ward and Caleb Williams. Are you claiming they should all be dumped because they are also below average?

Aren’t they getting Mike Evans back?

In general, the passing yards per game among the leaders and for average have been pretty consistent... Last year Burrows had an insane 290 passing yards per game - Goff had 272 and Mayfield had 265 (top 3 avg is 275). In 2023, CJ Stroud had the most per game at 274, then Tua at 272, and Goff at 270 (top 3 avg is 272). This year, we have Dak at 280 per game, then Mahomes at 270, and May at 263 (top 3 avg is 271). So, a bit less than last year, but not that much and quite similar to 2023 so far.

Why would they trade him? He's cheap AF and showing some potential.

I guess it’s just more noticeable this year. Just compare the MVP race last two years to now.

But there were better qbs 15-20 years ago

I mean if you have to go back 5 years to make your point, I'm not sure it really suggests there will be much difference in how teams handle the QB position etc since they really haven't in that time. There has been a long-term trend where passing yards have gone down, but things have been pretty darn stable the last 3 years

so uh, which statistics is he actually at and above average? it sounds like he's below average in everything, which is what CRA was saying.

2025 Season (Avg) vs 2020 Season (Avg) Passing Yards per Game~228.2 vs ~240.2 Passer Rating~91.9 vs ~93.6 Completion Pct ~64.6% vs ~65.2% Passing TDs~1.85 per game vs ~2.0

I dunno, we're talking 217 vs 212 yards, 7.1 vs 7.0 YPA, 92.3 QB rating vs 91.9, and QBs are actually throwing more TDs by percentage this year (4.7 this year vs 4.5 last).

Revamp the QB room, yes! Trade for shadeur, heeelllll no

Passing offenses are only averaging a few yards less this year than last, and I think that passing numbers trend up towards the end of the year, so we'll probably end up in a similar space. What I do think is different is that star QBs clearly aren't enough to carry teams right now.

even top QBs are struggling. Stafford was almost the anomaly Lower passing yards, QB rating, TDs, air yards per attempt, etc.

The change has been teams playing two high safeties to choke off big passing numbers. Your top tier qbs still produce though, and I do not think it will translate into an economic shift across positions in the league. The premium positions, qb, lt, pass rush, will still be the premiums.

Which means what exactly? I was comparing only to underscore the subjectivity of stats and that even Bryce can accumulate them throwing enough. Maybe this will be meaningful in Shedeur’s overall development? It’s an incredibly small sample size that looked rough before today. There are multiple reasons to question their significance, and there were some major mistakes that factored into the loss.

The Nashville game was an effort by the entire team. Everyone showed up, everyone contributed. Tonight was the exact opposite. Nobody had any spark. The best players on the ice were Martinook and Robinson. Aho was complete ass and should have been benched. He got tossed from the FO circle how many times? A season long 7-game home-stand against average and below teams. Time to take advantage and create some point difference in a tight division. Instead, 3-3 with one more game.