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What’s the old saying, you can put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day it’s still a pig

I just want to be on the record. Bryce is going to be great. That's my opinion.

Broncos feel comfortable putting out footage of their young qb slinging it. We didn't even allow media on day 2 for whatever reason

Settle down. People use extreme cases to show points. The point is Mills didn’t flash right away and turned out to be a hell of a player. No one is saying they are the same player. Also the person who said Sam flashed right away to show their point a good player will flash potential right away was incorrect in that case. That is all. Everything doesn’t have to be so absolute.

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Tight end Tommy Tremble is no stranger to proving he belongs. As he does so in the final year of his rookie contract, he'll rely on the past that's gotten him here and a new offense that could benefit his position.View the full article on Panthers.com

Honestly at this point it's getting disrespectful. Mills played for a small Division 3 school went undrafted and it took him years to get anyone to believe in him in the NFL. Bryce Young had some of the best coaching available since high school and played for a modern college football dynasty and one of the best college coaches ever on top of getting every excuse imaginable afforded to him even when he refused to participate at the combine and some of his peers in the same draft had their character attacked on a daily basis. Through all that he still went #1. Stop the disrespect.

It’s just a simple lesson that sometimes players take a minute to develop. It’s not always the case but it just feeds into the wait and see approach. Also one poster said Mills flashed instantly when that was clearly not the case.

What does a linebacker have to do with a QB other than trying to draw parallels for feels? Folks spent weeks comparing this kid to hall of famers before the draft but somehow it still just isn't clicking. How about just let him prove anything at this level and go from there.

Last time we had a vibe

Guy was just talking out his ass. No excuse when we have info at our fingertips

If it doesn’t work with Bryce….I just have one wish. Actually burn the thing to the ground. Quit keeping parts of a disaster to fix the last disaster.

Solid point that will probably get ignored or fall on deaf hears to those that need to hear it…

We love boogeymen here too. It’s just Joe Brady!! It’s all him! Meanwhile Rhule was a cartoon clown. Then it was all Rhule. Fitterer is actually great! Matt was in complete control! Now it was all Frank.

We'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully, Canales and Young gel and do good things together. That said, I'm not holding my breath.

Mills was released from the Browns after his first preseason. Then he went to Canada and was released before the season began there. He became a photography teacher before his next chance in CFL

If the team moves to Raleigh, so will the owner. Geography is not the problem.

I don’t think Frank picked his staff last year. I also don’t think they were all on the same page… Yeah the Caldwell thing smells funky.

Yeah, but that’s just standard talk. Same stuff said entering every year for every team. Like last year. Just echoing what Frank wants. Jim Caldwell won the Game of Thrones last year. He clearly rose in power during that poo show. How else does he help pick the hires this year. The offensive assistant also remains. I can accept keeping the entire D coaching staff intact but I have long said….something doesn’t smell right about Caldwell surviving all this. How exactly did he gain so much favor and survive. Same for the O assistant.

Just guessing, but I think they are trying to say the staff is all on the same page now. This is DC’s offensive staff that he brought in to run his offense and develop our QB the way he wants. Yes Bryce will deal with multiple people, but they should all be echoing what DC wants. On a conflicting side note, why is Caldwell still employed?

I mean, I normally jive with him but his logic here doesn’t actually make any sense. Bryce struggled last year because the HC, OC, Sr O advisor, Dalton, QB coach all were talking to him…..but that’s somehow not going to happen again? He is going to be hearing all those same folks talk. Maybe the old ones were the wrong voices but that’s not what he is arguing. Canales is the HC. A green one that has tons to learn. He isn’t going to be the lone voice for Bryce. He doesn’t t have that sort of time to devote to him

Best case scenario is this was a large part of the problem and he is a new and improved version of himself. The other side to this is he got significantly worse after Reich was canned. Also just because we've lived it after trading for him. We have to acknowledge the same oft used defense of Sam Darnold. Which was.....*drum roll*.... Mentioning Adam Gase as many times as possible until everyone believed he was the ultimate boogeyman.

This video is based off a Tommy Tremble comment.

Every thread either dies by falling off the front page or being locked because things got too spicy.

This is going well.