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I'd probably say yes - primarily because when Burns messed up he just overran the QB again - he missed making a game changing play. Horn - at least the last few games - has really hurt us with penalties, dropped INT, and getting beat regularly when the other team needed a first down or a score.

But this is just illogical. We haven't made the playoffs since 2017 and it has done nothing to get us any closer to being a contender. Like how could losing on Saturday possibly increase our chances of being a perpetual contender? We still need to find a long-term answer at QB, and have we not seen how difficult that is? All your concerns are just conjecture-based. You don't know what the FO is thinking. You don't know if any moves in the offseason will be difference based off us making the playoffs vs not. For all you know, Bryce could play like crap this week, we lose by 30, and he's still the starting QB in 2026. And if the team is as committed to Bryce as some of you claim they are, then one week isn't going to change that.

Ruined the perfect season for Brady. He should get an honorable mention at least just for fugging him over.

To your point of the unknowable future.. being lapped by NO on the QB hunt is really disturbing to me. Swept too. Absolutely we could be on the outside looking in, in the future. So I say Win and get the playoff game. I am expecting it given the pattern this year. But if I had assurances that Bryce would be gone if we lost Sunday, where do I sign up? I mean, talk about addition by subtraction… boom.

You are what your record says you are. -Bill Parcells

Eli is super weird. Also shows the importance of not being great...but being memorable and relevant to the storytelling of an era. Eli Manning 117 wins, 117 loses, 60% completion. 0 All Pros. But beating Tom Brady and rings matter.

His knock was that when he played any sort of level up in competition he looked completely lost and unable to deal with the competition level change. That should and did scare a LOT of teams. His abilities were arguably the best in that draft but he did play like a Day 3 pick in college. It's clear that the development at the NFL level has helped tremendously. And probably aided by being a long term backup. He is the exact type of player that needs that development route.

Currently, prlly Saints, defense is legit and a rookie QB who is figuring it out. Atlanta is good but because of one or 2 stars, Bijan is a monster. Most potential is Tampa, weapons everywhere but injuries on defense and a lame duck coach. Panthers are the most consistent even if we're also the most inconsistent...but we know every other week we're good. Most hilarious scenario to me would be panthers lose, Tampa celebrates and Bowles keeps his job because of that, but then atlanta wins and Raheem Morris keeps his job. Panthers make it to the playoffs like like a make a wish kid matching our QB. The end and everyone is miserable after the season

I think most of us aren't really Bryce haters as called but more so really confused and ticked off at this FO and it's behavior surrounding the QB room. The things they've done look like Bryce is being protected, shielded, whatever you want to call it, and that's coming from only one person, Tepper. He made the pick and he recognizes far too late when he's made a colossal mistake. Rhule, Hurney 2.0, Frank, Fitts. It just feel like just another log on the bonfire Dave started when he bought this team.

Even more than Bryce, our second rounders (and who we've passed on) has stung soooooo much. 2022: *traded away for Darnold (2nd, 4th & 6th - great job Fitt) - all-timer 2nd round class- Brisker, Pickens, Trey McBride, Mafe, Bonitto, Kyler Gordon, James Cook, KWIII, Wandale, it goes on... 2023: Mingo- Passed on: Tuli (oy vey), Brents, Branch, Benton, Rashee Rice, *traded away our other 2nd that ended up being Tyrique Stevenson. O-Torrence, DJ Turner, & Brenton Strange right there as well. 2024: *traded away/up for Legette in 1 lol - ahead of Ladd, Fiske, DeJean, Lassiter, Frazier, Edge Cooper...all guys who had big fans around and became studs very quickly *traded up again to get the injured Brooks - over: Frazier again, Sainristil, Nubin, Rosengarten

Health and coaching makes the difference to me. Tampa without a healthy Baker is about the same as the Panthers and their hole at QB. Saints trending way up. Atlanta is a HC away from being dangerous. Next year is where it gets interesting to me. None are good this year with where they stand today but next year things could get drastically shaken up. Does Atlanta and TB bring in better coaching? Worse? Does NO keep building upwards? Does the Panthers finally try to improve QB or just mail it in again?

If you recall correctly, he was the longest debate last year in the HOF committee. I think that likely means there are some pretty strong supporters AND detractors. I think he will get in eventually but I don't think this is the class to do it.

I still could see it happening, hes a Manning, won two rings, beat the undefeated Pats, etc. He started 210 games straight and is 11th all time in yards and TDs. They can and will justify it. Id say hes a lock in their eyes and i dont agree with him over Luke either.

Howell is the backup in Philly right now, hes anther guy i think needs a shot, guy put up 4k and 22 tds with the right coaching he could easly be a quality starter. Honestly there is a happy medium to that imo, you dont want guys who purely athletes and not football players, but you deff don't want guys who don't have the tools to succeed at the NFL level *Bryce young*. Given the choice I'd take upside though.

I don't think eli gets in this year, Brees Fitz Keek

Agreed. I thought how was better than corral at the time as well and was disappointed when we took Corral. Not sure where Howell is but I hope he's still in the league. But my philosophy drafting any prospect is always bet on elite tools and what can't be taught. I rather fill in the blanks with mental coaching than try to make a guy 5 inches taller or throw 20 yards further or 2 seconds faster.

To do what? Play QB? You dont take Bryce over a lot of backups at this point, lets not talk about guys that have put up big numbers in this league. Kirk wipes the floor with Bryce.

Eli getting in before Luke would directly fly in the face of the changes that were made to limit "less elite" players from getting in.

While I stand by this opinion, he could have also thrown Dalton out there to chuck it around a few times to see if anything looked different/improved...Garbage time I know but still

The question wasn't about knowing the future. It was to ascertain if you could see the logic behind the question. Short term pain of missing the playoffs for a season for the long term gain of perpetual contender. As to whether or not the FO has made their determination, I don't know. What i have seen is a QB that has been given more opportunity than deserved based on the results. If not for draft position, Bryce would have been cut a long time ago. If Bryce has an Atlanta type game in the first round of the playoffs, I could 100% see Tepper stepping in and offering him a huge extension to prove he knew it all along. I see both sides of the argument. Enjoy the playoffs while you can. Who knows when you'll be back. Or, feel the pain of missing the playoffs, but force the FO and most importantly the meddling owner to get real honest about our QB room. I haven't seen anything out of Morgan that gives me any reason to believe he doesn't think Bryce is the answer. Signing an ancient Dalton when clearly better options were available. Bringing back Plummer, who was camp bait the year before. We've purposefully ignored improvement in our QB room. My personal opinion, we shielded Bryce from feeling any pressure behind him. A humiliating defeat Saturday with Bryce putting up the biggest stinkerof his career may be what's necessary to wake this FO up. And who knows, we could lose Saturday, Falcons win, we still back into the playoffs with a losing record and the FO finally clues in the QB room has to be addressed at the 1,2 and 3 spots.

I think we are all pretty close roster wise. The biggest problem is we don't have a startable QB. With a league average QB we could have clinched this division weeks ago. Our defense has been fine.

The answer to that is yes. Willis has played well but its still a small sample size... He would be entertaining to watch at least lol. Like I said I want to get him or Howell in the off season, both have strong arms and some mobility...

I don't think you would see Bryce shine in San Fran. He might be better than here but he doesn't have any of the abilities that Purdy or Jones have. Even if you put him in the perfect situation, his ceiling is very low. His floor is an abyss.

I don’t think Bryce can thrive in any system. He might be less bad in the 9ers system, but at the end of the day he wouldn’t make anyone around him better.

Willis has an elite arm. And elite athleticism. He is big enough. 6'1 225 isn't small. NFL Network had a round 1 grade on him. The only knock on him really was he came out of liberty level competition.