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No cap space allowed us to get Phillips and Lloyd as their former teams couldn't afford them. The cap is real and has to be managed or you lose talent. That said both these signings are awesome

imagine the concession demands of a Costco-sponsored stadium It'll be better than the Falcons $5 meal deals (that are actually pretty decent for the price)

If Howell had such potential, he would have shown it after that season - but he has failed to. KP and Howell both had their team that drafted them move on from them, so I find that a wash. In opportunities since their first team, KP has looked like a backup, while Howell has failed to move up the depth chart and looked real bad in his only extended experience, so this fixation on Howell by this board is a clear reflection of his university and not his play in the NFL. Howell is not a guy that has potential that could develop into a future NFL QB, at least it doesn't look like it. The reality was we were never going to get a QB that could really push Bryce in any way in FA. Still, I'm hopeful the draft will bring us some potential in the QB room, because given our backup budget, we weren't going to be finding it in FA.

dumped my PSLs a year ago and haven't regretted it for a second

I for one, welcome the $20 hotdog

Merch sales The packers team store is huge, and makes a ton of money. Easily at least 10x the size of the dinky Panthers store at BoA

I've never had season tickets but always tried to make 1 home game / year. I haven't been since the steelers game in 22, their fans completely took over "The Bank". Not having a winning season and rising costs are a big part of that.

I've been saying in every free agent thread that y'all worry too much about finances. We've watched teams with "no cap space" sign marquee players for years while we were signing Rozebums. Leave it to the spreadsheet nerds that the team employees, it'll be fine.

Right...I think they've done really well. No one's going to bat 1000% but they've addressed areas of need and there's no comparison to the overall talent of the team now than when DC and then Morgan got the reigns. This whole season is about seeing how much of a step up can Bryce and this team make. If Bryce can't and last year is as good as it gets for him then at least we have a talented roster for the next guy. I think we're going to be good this season

I said could, not would. I recognize he has potential based on past performance. Compared to what KP has done, Howell has more potential and the physical traits to make noise. KP has small hands and a weak arm. Not something you want in even your backup QB. I've been hammering since last off-season before we re-signed Dalton, improve the room. Other than getting younger, I don't see how anyone can say we legitimately improved the room or even tried. We might as well have signed Josh Rosen. Dalton is still on the roster for now. That's 3 QBs unless we trade or cut him. He's still Bryce's mentor after all. Do you believe we are going to draft someone with potential and give them a legitimate opportunity to develop from the practice squad? Are we going to carry 3 QBs on the active roster? 4 for a developmental rookie? Are we going to potentially cut KP if we draft a rookie and he's outperformed? Doubtful. Cutting Dalton(if we can't trade him) and KP would be 8m in wasted cap space. I chose Howell as an example because he showed promise in his only full season as a starter. You could plug in another name with the physical traits and potential and what i said would still apply. KP showed almost nothing and was benched. I genuinely don't care if it’s rookie pick as long as there is the potential to develop into a future NFL QB. As much as I can't stand him, Bellichek was always developing a number 2 QB even with the GOAT as his starter. The wisdom of that was evident when Cassell came in when Brady was hurt week 1 and went 11-5 and almost made the wildcard, which 11-5 gets you almost any other year. I give credit where it's due though. Cassel and Jimmy G both came into the league as developmental QBs, potential QB1s, and went on to have careers. You never know if you never try. KP feels like a punt in addressing the most important position on the field. Bryce has never played 2 full games of franchise QB level football back to back. If Bryce progresses, are you ready to offer a 280m 5 year extension based off a one hit wonder year? If Bryce regresses and we need a QB in 27, are we going to trade a fortune away again to trade up to 1 to get one? Are you ready to do the past 3 years all over again? To me, it's not about Kenny Pickett. It's about the move itself. It was a feeble attempt to improve the QB room. We better hope Bryce succeeds, because if he doesn't, we literally have no backup plan right now.

IOL that early isn’t good value at all. We have a LT who might not ever be good again and a RT that might retire soon. T seems deep early in this draft, so I’d go there in the 1st.

Season tickets aren't affordable anymore definitely when they've been so bad for 8 years before last season. When I started going my seats were front row uppers for like 38 bucks. Those seats are 100 dollars now. Teams make their money from tv, if I was an owner my goal would be to break even on tickets and concessions.

Dan Morgan has always said that he wants to hit free agency hard so that they can take BPA in the draft. my latest mock hasn't changed much, but there was much less reaching to fill holes i haven't looked at Dunker much in this draft cycle, but he was right there at 83. if this FA period allowed us to re-stack the OL, allowing us to shift some money to other areas of the roster in the next couple years, that would be amazing

This is some of the silliest stuff I have seen here in a while. Carolina had a great draft last season and is having one of the best off-seasons in years. In just 10 short months, they have almost completely rebuilt the roster going from a bunch of JAGs to a having a OROY, 2 Pro Bowl caliber players in Phillips and Lloyd, great young players with tons of potential in Scourton, Umanmielen, Evans, Horn JR, etc., and all some of you can talk about is how signing a backup player to a 4M contract makes you question how well the FO is doing. That's just crazy.

The Center from Duke, Parker II is a top 5 Center prospect, he’s really good and no one is really talking about him

Pickett is pretty athletic and has had some impressive scrambles. Howell has a stronger arm but worse decision-making ability, and has struggled to even make a role for himself as a backup (including on teams Pickett did). There is likely more happening behind the scenes in terms of their decision (wouldn't be surprised if our SEA connections mean that our guys know something about Howell), and Pickett's contract is hardly back-breaking.

percentages can be misleading. a 5% change for a $100 ticket is a $5 difference, but it's $25 for a $500 ticket but a $5 change to a $50 dollar ticket is a 10% increase. It's still a $5 increase, but people who look just at the percentage could scream about the higher percentage number vs other seats

And Robertson from Baylor is basically another Pickett.

I'm not a fan of Pickett but why are we saying he has a "noodle arm?" He has small hands no doubt but he arm was always average to me. His velocity is clocked in the mid 50s. Nothing elite but not a weakness either. Nothing to really be excited about but he is a younger upgrade at the backup position. I'd still like to draft one to develop though.

And also curious how much the "cheap" seats will increase percentage wise. I feel like when they had the 6% increase last year, it was only like 1% or something for the upper level

If howell and pickett are in the same tier why not go with the cheaper, more athletic guy who has the better arm?

Again its the tepper effect, you could legitmately argue Picket is the worst and and least physically gifted FA qb in this cycle and we signed him

one wonders how much money Dave is really saving with turf fields when he has to spend nearly $200 million dollars on the first day of free agency to, in part, free himself up to target a position he already had locked down on the roster until his turf monster destroyed the guy’s knee

Packers increasing from $4 to $22 per game Saints staying the same Patriots are increasing "a little more than 7%" Bears increase 13.5% Lions staying the same-ish Dolphins staying the same

Based on the continued approach to the most consequential position on the football field thanks to his push for us to trade up to the first pick one should logically conclude that his presence is still felt within the day to day operations. The guy isn't a monster but he also isn't in need of anyone lining up to shine his shoes or kiss his ass but lo and behold there is always someone that wants to paint him out to be a victim. I assure you the billionaire is doing just fine regardless of what anyone says about him on the internet. Carry on.