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I few coaches have liked all sorts of players that were horrible. NFL is not full of geniuses. It's a good ole boy network of football guys.

Yeah, if you're gonna make a move like that it needs to be for a guy who checks every box down the line. And honestly, the last guy who did that is still looking very mid himself down in Jacksonville. There's no such thing as a sure thing in the NFL draft.

dang!

Everybody says Evans but I think they're too caught up in height. Mike Evans is an absolute beast. He's basically prime David Boston except he didn't derail his career with weight issues. He absolutely physically overwhelms people. That's not T-Mac. T-Mac's size is an asset but it's honestly secondary to his route running, sneaky speed, and natural body control.

TMac isn't out running guys in the nfl like he did in college. He's going to have to fight for yards in the nfl.

To be fair, there were a few coaches that liked Bryce. We just rolled the dice and crapped out. My thing is, we made an ill-advised trade to move up to get him, and we've been doubling down ever since.

To be fair, there were a few coaches that liked Bryce. We just rolled the dice and crapped out. My thing is, we made an ill-advised trade to move up to get him, and we've been doubling down ever since.

a washed (but not as washed as today) Andy Dalton stepped on the field and flipped the offense on it's head in 2023. The one peak we saw w/o Bryce yielded vastly different results. Bryce Young hasn't fit either of the last 2 offenses. Now, that's not his fault. But it's a reality people got to quit ignoring. All he will ever fit is a Young centric O and no coach wants to build that.

To be fair, there were a few coaches that liked Bryce. We just rolled the dice and crapped out. My thing is, we made an ill-advised trade to move up to get him, and we've been doubling down ever since.

I'm thinking more of a Mike Evans where he beats you at the top of the route or when the ball gets there. D Hop is a hell of a route runner that'll toast you off the LOS. If TMac becomes that...

You don't have to convince me of that. I've watched Bryce the super processing PG mentality wizkid play 30+ NFL games.

Well, yeah. Next year will be the first since it was done that we will get to use our draft picks. 3 years of prime talent traded for dude that was the beneficiary of a mass formation operation by the media.

I was going to say his ceiling is Hopkins. That's the style of WR he is.

I'll never be convinced that Reich wanted anything to do with Bryce. As soon as we zeroed in on Bryce and it was obvious he was going to be the pick it just seemed like the wind went out of his sails and he was just like "fug it, I'm just gonna go through the motions until they send me packing". I still just want to know whether he was led to believe he'd have more sway in the QB decision or if he just felt that he'd be more persuasive in his arguments and be able to get his way.

Goddddd I hate that line

I'm not trying to argue with you, but "billed" vs reality are two competely different things. And it definitely played out to not be a good landing spot for a rookie.

Packers fans under Teppers box should bring umbrellas.

2023 was billed as literally the best landing spot for any rookie QB.... Bryce Young just isn't a NFL QB. He can't run an O that isn't super Bryce centric. That's what we have found out. And you see that every single season he has played. He doesn't elevate, he lowers. Frank Reich was an offensive Fox/Rivera. He wasn't the idiot Bryce made everyone look to be. Tepper forced a dude that isn't a NFL QB on the field week 1 that everyone that was coaching knew he couldn't do.

We gonna need a Cam Newton size hat.

So many unanswered questions: Did Jangler ever kidnap that girl from Heros? What Home Depot bathroom will SCP poo in? Did GRITS ever go to jail for touching kids? Where am I going to learn about imported tiles? Did the Saints fans ever get back at Roger Gordell? Was that Dwayne Garrett i seen working at Taco Bell??? Which way SCP helmet is facing?? Why did I see a movie made by PhillyB in the bargain bin??

He's talking about Bryce's rookie season. I'm done talking about his rookie season. A lot of the issues have been addressed and Bryce still looks like his ceiling is low level game manager. He just has too many physical shortcomings to overcome and the frustrating thing is that seemed blatantly obvious to me and many others on here coming into the draft. You just can't recreate Saban-era Alabama in the NFL where you have a talent advantage at nearly every position across the board almost every game.

2023? No. 2025? Yes. Just need some speed on the edges.

They're very different WRs. One can catch a 5 yards curl and take it 50 yards to the house. That's more of what this team needs. That's more of a Bryce Young WR. He plays the short game. Need guys that scare you after the catch.

there’s nothing to answer. You’re just wish casting A low experience coordinator that no one else interviewed was offered a job he’s not qualified for that no one else wanted and he took it because you don’t turn down that kind of money and has predictably been a total disaster. You don’t need to make up circumstances around this. It’s obvious. he was a bad decision when he was hired and he’s a bad coach now. The circumstances of the team he agreed to coach don’t mitigate that reality. how many times is a head coach allowed to get blown out by four touchdowns before you cut bait on him? What’s your number?

not true. OL is good. Run game is good. We have seen a ton of QBs have middle of the road or better offense w/ that foundation. It's a long list. Whether it's from the jump or injury creates it.