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Motor and physical tools is a big part of it. Pass rushers usually aren't instant impact additions in the draft. It usually takes 2-3 years to know what you've got. In the meantime, just show me effort and the the physical tools.

Damn you weren’t kidding about being drunk in the morning. Hope you got an uber taking you home and maybe an IV coming for the incoming hangover.

I just don't see how. The physical tools just aren't there. The ceiling is really low. I knew his physical talent ceiling was limited coming into the draft but honestly even as a guy who didn't want Bryce in the draft because of that, I still significantly underestimated just how limited he was going to be on an NFL field.

Pretty much yes but only the severe optimistics understand that maybe he COULD still get there. Maybe.

He's still young and has had some good plays. High motor can take you far as a young guy

Nah he’s not, he’s been coming to this board since at least 2008 if not before, usually right before and after Packers matchups since that’s his team

LB or Oline

Picking up Bryce's option would be brutal. But yeah, it feels like a very Tepper's Panthers thing to do. You just can't pay the guy another $26M+ guaranteed. Not when you can reasonably get his level of play from a journeyman vet FA for a lot less. Bryce is a replacement level QB. You don't sign up to give a replacement level QB another $26M+. You just replace him.

That's funny

No I’m envious.

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That’s great. Vegas thought the Packers were two TDs better too.

linebacker or FS at 32

Only a matter of time, ufc just got hit

Let players put 1/4 of each games' paycheck on a straight up win payout. Give them some addt motivation to fight for the win

To be fair you don't know what you get from week to week with this team. If we commit to the run with Rico we should win this in a walk.

I wouldn't be against signing bryce to a longer contract and moving him to backup when the time is right. Andy may be a good mentor, but his time on field is likely done

The media created the mythos around Young and they’re going with it until the wheels fall off

It tells you what they think about the betting publics thoughts on putting money on the game.

Gambling - at the industrial level it has reached - is the single largest threat to the NFL. It will only take one scandal the size of what just went down with the NBA

Keep it that way. The team plays with a chip on their shoulder when they feel slighted. They poo the bed when they're favored.

About what I expected. I would've probably guessed -3.5.

If we win, Rattler gets to leave on our jet. Them's the rules.

He's a decent RB1, but a really good RB2. He's the first skill position player that has done anything for us recently, which parlayed him to a nice new deal.

I think a premier ILB in the Panther's tradition (Beason, Mills, Luke, Morgan) would be the best pick and the best way to improve this team. Edge, you ask? Well, I think we addressed it and they are developing now. With Scourton and Princely, we got 2 with real potential. Here me out---those of you screaming for QB need to realistically approach the situation. We are not drafting a QB early barring a late season Young meltdown. Bryce is getting a fifth year--and he will start in 2026 and probably in 2027 barring some major meltdown. This season has a ton of "fallen angels" or QBs with the skill set to develop into an NFL starter. In the second or third round, you draft your possible qb of the future. Scratch these probable first rounders: (Comments are not from me--screen shots) however, the next six or seven have tremendous potential, and if you draft a QB like the Packers do and develop him for 2-3 seasons, these QBs would give us an upgrade at #2 QB and 2 years to groom him in the event Bryce does not earn a huge second contract. About WR: Coker is a solid #3 and Horn gives us a thrilling option on STs and in the slot. He was a nice pick. TMac needs a strong #2. XL does not seem that interested in the job, and he seems a bit over his head in the NFL. Yes, we could use a solid WR, but I am not sure a rookie. I think we pinch some pennies and redo some OL contracts and make WR our biggest priority in free agency. Draft a sleeper late. Tight End: Do we have enough there? I really like Mitchell, but I am not sure about Sanders and Tremble is who he is. Do we have a threat? I think Bryce loves his checkdowns and underneath routes--he's not had a Stud TE. I want one. (platonic) They are usually still available in round 3. Safety: Not sure we have the center fielder we need at FS. Moehrig and Ransom might be the same thing. And if it were not for Doc in "Back to the Future," nobody in Charlotte would ever say "Great Scott!" We need a smart, defensive QB at S, in my opinion. Of course, OL (center, T) could be in play, but I like Mays as the starter at C and Moton could play another season or two. We need to start grooming guards, but we have depth there now. My draft day order, by position: Linebacker Have we ever been good without the best ILB in the NFL? I don't think so. (3-4 now, but we run some 4-3 looks) QB #2 with long-term starting potential (I like so many second-tier QBs. one or two of them will become NFL starters. Mark my words) Tight End (lotta folks might disagree here, but a big-time, viable option to go with Mitchell, Sanders, and Tremble) Safety (we need a QB for the D--Moehrig and Ransom are similar) Tackle (Moton is getting old and we need to start grooming a potential replacement) WR (this late IF we sign a free agent) Center (I like Mays, but his contract status and the depth at C needs to be addressed)