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2003.

Start watching hockey lol. The hurricanes don't suck. Ive even seen them win a title already in my lifetime lol.

I didn’t just use yards. I also used points. and I definitely didn’t do where they ranked as a comparison. 2025 features way more horrific offense than 2024 did across the league

Watch the games

Yeah I’m a little sad that I never had much to root for in my childhood sports teams (Hornets, Panthers). I hope that the Panthers will be good for my children to enjoy them during their childhood like I never could during mine

Bryce Young formation we call it surrender

I started posting here the age you are now... back in 2004 lol.

Brown, the FAs, and the rookies progressing have been solid for the defense enough to get them in a better spot than last year. Despite having scrubs at LB, it's been alright. Progress, still lower of the NFL ladder. The offense has more "punch", for lack of better term, but the lows have been lower than anything I've seen since Clausen. Like, very terrible football. Not pro level, embarrassing level offense.

I have to wonder if David Moore would be a better option than Legette he also plays special teams, makes plays, avoids stupid mistakes and is decent Legette is good for a couple of drops or bone headed mistakes a game…can’t do that this time of year I mean, Jesus, the official tells you are offside and you don’t correct it….

could've went 2 for 2 if only we didn't Fitterer

I really hope we are able to look back one day soon in relief that the BY era finally ended. Hopefully it’s sooner rather than later.

And still pretending that having your LT, QB, and 2 1st round WRs on rookie contracts doesnt skew those numbers even more. We've invested far more quality picks into offense than the defense. We've heavily invested in the offense at the expense of the defense. Without the defense exceeding their preseason expectations, we're winning 3-5 games looking at another top 10 pick.

Yeah, I hate his style of D but given what it is and the parts he has….its a solid job done this particular year.

I would go a step further and say you know what you have after a QB has 6 losses on their record. If they can't meet the minimum standards after 6 losses, they need to ride the bench and develop. Keep them around for another shot IF the next QB racks up 6 losses and also fails, and you believe there's enough potential to develop them. After 12 losses, you have to move on from a QB if they can't demonstrate the minimum standards of a playoff caliber QB. It's not difficult to see a playoff level franchise QB on a bad team. QBs should always elevate their offense and make their players look better than they actually are on Sundays. It's the opposite with the Panthers. The WRs and RBs are making Bryce look better than he actually is at this level.

I see a defense improving though ever so slightly 3an offense regressing when it is supposed to be why the coaching staff was hired to fix. Its not just a qb problem folks. Although we desperately need an upgrade that alone will not fix the coaching problem.

And I maintain, the grace that has been given to Bryce has never ever been given to a QB before him and likely never will after. Had guys like Clausen and Rosen been given 3 years for a team to be beaten over the head like Neegan did Glen with how shitty they are, I GUARANTEE, Clausen and Rosen would’ve had some 300+ yarders with 3 TDs.

How about the one right before halftime that he threw straight into the dirt ten feet in front of him

Against tougher defenses we see what happens when Bryce attempts to be aggressive. That floater that ended up being a pick is what happens. I know you know this, but I’m just saying for posterity… they’re not being safe because the plays aren’t there to be made. They’re playing it safe because the alternative is multiple turnovers. And again, I just don’t understand how anyone worth their salt hitched their wagon to someone who hamstrings their entire offense like this.

And to grow some testicals

The fourth and 16 throw made me question if watching football anymore was worth it lol

I'm under the idea that Evero's likely not coming back bc he doesn't want to come back. He tried to interview with other teams last year.

Dowdle averaged 4.9 per carry. They just don't know how to call plays

You need a chart to show you where the passes went today? Did you not watch the game?

Really hope Rob Hunt being back next week motivates this OL a little more. Run game hasn’t had the surge it did earlier in the year. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I think having David Moore’s fresh legs and veteran presence might help this young WR room next week.

Dc has his hands tied with a backups backup playing as his starter. Young has to go.