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That's bigtime... if they overlook Miami... you never know! Chubb could be on a mission.

That's a potential guy to look at. I will say that it would have to be at a lower price than we gave up for Burns, probably a 4th or lower. Reason being he hasn't been anywhere near as productive as Burns and 2026 is the last year of his deal. So even if he flashes in 2026(in the ever dangerous contract year), you may end up in a situation having to shell out a much bigger contract to obtain him. That said, should be a day 1 starter in 2026 on this roster.

And now Pitt gets a fumble and take it back for a TD one play later. That's a 14 point swing due to the refs. A 14-10 Pitt lead should be 17-7 ECU. This is investigation worthy stuff.

Broadcast maps for tomorrow. Must-see tv. Eagles-Bills is the nationwide 4pm game.

Good lord ECU is getting fuged raw. They converted a 4th down that was obvious but called short and review upheld the call. Now they have a 61 yard run called back due to an inadvertent whistle. This is absurd.

They’re not that bad if you put enough Old Bay on them.

I think the player matters a lot(in regards to price specifically). Parsons will likely end up being worth the price because he is unquestionably elite. Burns obviously hasn't been until this year because he isn't a consistently elite pass rusher. He is too easy to shut down with just a single blocker. Guys like Parsons and Garrett that you have to plan your entire blocking scheme around make everyone on the defense better. Truth be told, that isn't Burns on his current line, it's Dexter Lawrence. But, as you pointed out, situations still matter. Joe Burrow may be a truly elite QB but that doesn't matter a lot when he can't stay healthy or the overall team isn't good. Ask Matt Stafford about that in Detroit. The Panthers aren't in a position to be liquidating the extremely valuable draft picks we have. Our roster is still a bottom 5 overall NFL roster.

I don't hate KK. The Canes overpaid and he's enjoying the benefits. Anyone who assumed he was going to turn into an excellent player based on what the Canes paid him weren't paying attention. Sure, I wish he was much more physical, he's a big guy, and that's really all I was hoping for when he came to Carolina. Danault is better in the FO circle, better defensively and better down the middle, but it's a moot point now.

Last year is not this year

I think Cherelus is actually better. Low bar but IMO he is.

Despite many in here talking down upon him, Wallace was an impact maker on this defense. His presence is already missed. Am glad they put him on the shelf, before his shoulder got worse. I oray for a quick recovery for him.

I think we are a pretty good ways from being "dominant." I think two more elite players gets is to being above average and borderline top 10-12. Truthfully if we STAY in a 3-4 the way Evero envisions it, we probably need another good starter alongside DB and A. Robinson, we need at LEAST one elite EDGE and probably an upgrade over every single other EDGE on our roster across from him. We need 100% new ILB's of NFL starting caliber or better. Ideally one truly elite guy. We likely need a big upgrade at S across from Moehrig. I think CB is very serviceable. Maybe an upgrade at either #2 CB or nickel(can move Jackson around). That is what it likely takes to be a "dominant" defense(top 5). Again, after really hurting this team for so long by trading draft capital away, it really has to be the right situation and price for me to want to jump into more of that. Doesn't mean that in 4-5 years if this roster keep improving and we are a regular playoff participant I wouldn't change my mind. That's just not the spot I view us in at the moment.

The irony is the Panthers could’ve drafted him instead of Will Grier (Zod’s franchise QB), but Hurney and ticket sales were more important. That draft thread had me raked for saying we should’ve got him. I’d take him of course but depends on price. This Dline needs help bad.

To play devils' advocate for a minute, I'm not sure ANY big time DE signing is worth it long term. The Giants signed Burns to a large contract and have gone 5-26 since. And yes I understand there are many variables that go into a win/loss number, the capital expended on him has been wasted so far. The Packers signed/traded for Parsons and they look to have the same record as last year and the defense actually locks a little weaker. I understand you get these players for the playoffs but still, so far, again, it has not been a wise allocation of capital. The Bengals brought in Hendrickson in 2021? and other than 2022, their defense has been in the bottom of the league ( all the while Burrows has been getting killed because of a bad o-line). So yeah, going with what you said about bringing in young, afforable, players does seem the best way to go. It's not nearly as fun or sexy though.

Unless Darnold goes full Darnold which is always a possibility I don't see us beating the Seahawks. The Bucs are in complete freefall though so it wouldn't be shocking to see them lose to the Dolphins. They're finding a way to lose every week.

tristian wirfs is out for tampa

This Pitt/ECU game is a total defensive struggle fest but go ECU because fug Pitt. Can't stand Narduzzi. He coaches a dirty style of play. His teams are always mouthy, chippy, and full of cheap shotters.

Benjamin and TMac were roughly similar speeds. Benjamin was a 4.61 at the NFL Combine and TMac was about a 4.5-4.6 on most scouts watches at his pro day. Having elite speed is great but having elite playing ability is better. Where are all the Matthew Golden fanbois at? How is that working out? People get wrapped up in the video game guys like Megatron, Randy Moss, DK Metcalf, etc. That's extremely abnormal. Hopkins, Fitz, etc....those guys weren't elite speedsters. I guess that's why they didn't pan ou....oh...right.

I have a guy who has won me a lot of money this year on bets and he also predicted both. Dolphins have a much higher chance to pull the upset but panthers are still favored to win according to the model he uses but it’s a much closer score predicted

Saying hes not a speedster is not saying he's slow.

Risky making these bold predictions on here. We can only hope that's how it plays out tomorrow

Honestly inside backer has been addtion by subtraction, at the very least its a position we suck so bad at there is no drop off

No "one player" is true but I do think the defense is maybe two more elite players away from being a dominant defense, namely at LB and edge rusher, our secondary has performed very well considering the complete lack of a pass rush.... and our 3 linemen are pretty dang good, an elite pass rusher would push this defense into the top ten imo but they will still be inconsistent vs the run and vs TEs until inside LB is upgraded the last 5 years really show you how spoiled we have been at LB until then.

Everyone wants to blame the college game for this but it's every bit as much to blame on the NFL. Every team is focusing on getting the ball put as fast as possible on most passing plays. That essentially means a one or two read offense. True old school classic full field NFL read passing plays are a rarity in today's league. The modern NFL offense looks a lit more like a classic "college offense" than it does a classic "pro style" offense.

lol.