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Who would hurt us the most if they don't have a big year in 2014.


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When I was looking at Godfrey's contract a minute ago I saw an interesting fact.  Everyone has complained that we can't cut Stewart and that Johnson would cost too much to cut and costs too much to keep.  But I thought it was an interesting observation that the guy that would cost the most this year if he couldn't play would actually be Ryan Kalil.  Right now his dead cap money would be 18,290,000, Stewart would be 18,185,000 and Johnson would be 16,200,000.

 

From a production point of view he anchors the line is playing at a pro-bowl level and his cap cost to keep him is a reasonable 7,284,000.

 

Darn good thing he is playing this well and doesn't want to pull a Gross and retire anytime soon.

 

While Cam is the most important guy on the offense and Kuechly on the defense, from a production point of view,  the argument could be made that Kalil is just as crucial because of his production, position and cost if we lost him  Just an observation about we could least afford to lose.  Morbid I admit.

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According to a lot of off season huddle talk, we should cut our two vest running backs, charles johnson, godfrey, and not extend hardy.

Yes, cause we don't want to field a competitive team!!!

People wanted to cut Tolbert!?

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According to a lot of off season huddle talk, we should cut our two vest running backs, charles johnson, godfrey, and not extend hardy.

Yes, cause we don't want to field a competitive team!!!

 

I dont think anyone is saying cut C.J. and let Hardy roll. Maybe one, but not the other. Why do you want to keep a one-legged Godfrey? He did cost 7 million against the cap at one point and we all saw what happened to Beason after his Achilles injury. And no one wants to cut Tolbert. I think people being upset that we give J. Stew a new contract for 1 game a year is also a legitimate gripe. Maybe you should join Hurney at ESPN? Or did they already fire him?

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Well, I haven't been one calling for the chopping block.  I think it's much more wise to at least get a guy whom you may think can fill the void before speaking of cutting.  Moreover, I find it a little bit self-serving to say cut a guy who has been injured, but has actually played at a high level before.  

 

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that it's right to sit on your tail and get paid for production that hasn't come for years, but that's why Godfrey actually taking a pay cut should be commended.  

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What is the point of this thread?

What is the point of most of the threads this time of year.  I have been reading about the draft for so long I wanted to discuss something else.  I guess I didn't develop the theme because if extrapolated to what would happen if something happened to Kalil seems somewhat morbid and testing fate.  I am glad he is healthy but so was Beason when he went down.  See there I go doing it.

 

Perhaps I should have called the thread, who is the most important player to stay healthy throughout the season from a financial point of view..  Most folks would have said Johnson or Cam or even Stewart but who would thought Kalil.  He not only is the anchor on the line but the guy who has to stay healthy.  We will be married to him until at least 2016 when his dead money goes below 10 million.

 

At what point do you draft his backup.  Later in the draft this year or sometime down the road.

 

Anyway, back to the same old draft threads where we can debate whether Moses can take us to the promised land or if Robinson will get lost or make a contribution. 

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