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At what point does Rivera consider the nuclear option...

UNCrules2187

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and can Shula? With the bye coming so late this season (Week 12), it would have to be a mid-week move if we want to salvage playoff hopes. He's got a ready-made playcaller in-house, in the waiting, who he's worked with before in John Ramsdell:

 

Panthers hire John Ramsdell as offensive assistant
 
The Panthers have hired longtime NFL assistant coach John Ramsdell to serve as a senior offensive assistant.
 
Ramsdell fills the vacancy created when former offensive quality control coach Lance Taylor left to take a position at Stanford.
 
Ramsdell, 59, worked with Philip Rivers as San Diego's quarterbacks coach from 2006-2012 when Panthers coach Ron Rivera was a Chargers assistant.
 
Ramsdell spent 11 years in St. Louis in a variety of offensive roles from 1995-2005 -- a stretch that included the Ram's Super Bowl season of 1999 with an offense dubbed the 'Greatest Show on Turf.'

 

 

This hire happened on March 31, 2014. Almost exactly 6 months ago. You have to think Rivera didn't make this hire for the hell of it. I can't believe Ron would be willing to tank the season with Shula's vanilla playcalling...

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Don't think it would be in the best interests of the team to fire Shula right now, since we're running his playbook, but Rivera could certainly give Ramsdell a much more prominent role in both game planning and play calling (assuming he hasn't already) with the idea that eventually Ramsdell would take over the OC responsibilities. 

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Shula is not the problem.  Our O-line is the problem.  Why does have to be said repeatedly?  

We cannot run because we cannot block and ALL of our RBs are hurt.  We cannot pass (consistently) because we cannot run and the defense can plan on pass rush only (AND our o line cannot block).

Firing Shula will do NOTHING to improve our offense.

 

 

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My problem with Shula is he doesn't seem to understand what balance is. He swings wildly week to week and overcorrects his gameplans. Run only 10 times vs the Steelers, wtf? Ok, lemme go the other way, let's run 26 times against Baltimore with a rookie UDFA. 

 

C'mon dude, understand your personnel. Understand the O-line isn't that great and the ball needs to come out quickly, transition to a quick passing offense like SD and NYG have, throw digs, slants, hitches, smoke routes, DRILL into Cam's head that the ball needs to come out within 3 seconds.

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Shula is not the problem. Our O-line is the problem. Why does have to be said repeatedly?

We cannot run because we cannot block and ALL of our RBs are hurt. We cannot pass (consistently) because we cannot run and the defense can plan on pass rush only (AND our o line cannot block).

Firing Shula will do NOTHING to improve our offense.

He continues to call consecutive runs even though we're down 20+

I like Shula for the most part, but this is unacceptable,

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My problem with Shula is he doesn't seem to understand what balance is. He swings wildly week to week and overcorrects his gameplans. Run only 10 times vs the Steelers, wtf? Ok, lemme go the other way, let's run 26 times against Baltimore with a rookie UDFA. 

 

C'mon dude, understand your personnel. Understand the O-line isn't that great and the ball needs to come out quickly, transition to a quick passing offense like SD and NYG have, throw digs, slants, hitches, smoke routes, DRILL into Cam's head that the ball needs to come out within 3 seconds.

I'm sure this option has been discussed.  Why haven't they transitioned to it?  I don't know.  My best guess is because none of our WRs match that offensive system.  That is built on receivers that have YAC ability.  We have none (unless you count P. Brown).

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My problem with Shula is he doesn't seem to understand what balance is. He swings wildly week to week and overcorrects his gameplans. Run only 10 times vs the Steelers, wtf? Ok, lemme go the other way, let's run 26 times against Baltimore with a rookie UDFA. 

 

C'mon dude, understand your personnel. Understand the O-line isn't that great and the ball needs to come out quickly, transition to a quick passing offense like SD and NYG have, throw digs, slants, hitches, smoke routes, DRILL into Cam's head that the ball needs to come out within 3 seconds.

 

This.  Shula should be helping out the O-line by calling quick developing plays or leaving an outlet for Newton underneath.  

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