Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Newton vs. Dalton: the raw numbers

TonyN

By TonyN,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

Lumps Newbie

Lumps

Posted
Posted

But Cincinnati has built around Dalton and he has had an oline and great WR play. So has Luck and Wilson and Kap... Cam is better than all of them but Gettle never wanted him as a franchise QB so they are not helping him out on purpose.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CelibatePimp Newbie

CelibatePimp

Posted
Posted

Anybody else shocked at how close the stats actually were?

I was

 

I wasn't. I've known this for a while because I just don't follow the Panthers. His numbers at this stage of his career are slightly better than Manning's at that same point in his career, an argument most Bengals fans use.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • 4 weeks later...
panthers55 Grand Master

panthers55

Posted
Posted

One problem comparing the 2 is that they play in different systems which emphasize different things.  For example Dalton's WCO almost always results in a higher completion percentage and fewer Interceptions since it is based on shorter passes and YAC for much of their yardage.  Coryell systems emphasize longer passes which often lowers the completion percentage, increases interceptions and shows a higher YPA.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ricky Spanish Grand Master

Ricky Spanish

Posted
Posted

I bet newton has the most yards lost from sacks in the league. I just got off a 12 hour shift so I'm not looking it up. It's a drive killer and happens multiple times per game. That's my biggest knock on newton.

 

Double edged sword of a mobile QB. He'll make a retarded 8 yard scramble for loss, then break five tackles to pick up the first down on 3rd and 15. 

 

Also the Line isn't very good, so he's getting hit as soon as he takes the last step in his drop back. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • fanpanther
      Where do you fall on the Bryce Young spectrum?

      By fanpanther · Posted

      the one thing this post has suprised me with is how much support there still is for young.  i dont understand why.  we had qbs before him that went to superbowls that lost support way quicker.  thr only qb we had had that started any number of games that played worse than young is clausen.  allen and moore played better and yet people still support him makes 0 sense to me
    • WUnderhill
      Hey You, You Don't Know Quarterbacking

      By WUnderhill · Posted

      Again, can’t have a serious discussion if constantly wading through hyperbole. And you say that’s not really what was meant, but I tried to at one point get some folks to concede that he was physically capable of throwing a football 20yds just so we could get to a real discussion and they stuck with it. So I’m not sure your characterization is entirely accurate.
    • strato
      Bryce's Achilles Heel Is Not What You Think It Is

      By strato · Posted

      And this is his third year. As far as people not understanding things, I am not sure people accept how difficult it is to remake yourself from the ground up. Which he absolutely has to do to compete successfully at the NFL level.  He takes a step forward with the footwork and a step back when he is stressed and reverts to what always worked for him before. I will say it yet again, anyone that reached a level of success with their self taught technique but needed to rebuild to break through the limitations that imposed, will understand this. I don’t care what specific activity it is the same challenge. Muscle memory and comfort level fight against the new moves you are trying to train yourself to do without thinking.  He is there. There is a ceiling with his technique that is too low for the NFL. He has to retrain himself.  We are in the third year and I guess we are supposed believe that he will be so good  when he finally gets to where the new will be second nature, that we have to wait (how many more years) for him to finish doing it. If he ever finishes.  The sad fact is he will not succeed at the NFL level with his horrible college footwork and compensation moves like the tippy toe drop backs. He just won’t.  If he can’t put that on the table for us, we would be foolish to not seek an alternative plan. 
×
×
  • Create New...