Newton vs. Dalton: the raw numbers

[Lumps]

But Cincinnati has built around Dalton and he has had an oline and great WR play. So has Luck and Wilson and Kap... Cam is better than all of them but Gettle never wanted him as a franchise QB so they are not helping him out on purpose.

[LUUUUUKE]

Anybody else shocked at how close the stats actually were?

I was

[CelibatePimp]

Anybody else shocked at how close the stats actually were?

I was

 

I wasn't. I've known this for a while because I just don't follow the Panthers. His numbers at this stage of his career are slightly better than Manning's at that same point in his career, an argument most Bengals fans use.

[bandu]

I love stats because its a measuring stick for performance and is factual but it doesnt equate the fact that Dalton is more like Jim Kelly 2.0 than Peyton Manning 2.0.

[brandon_87]

That's the dumbest poo I've ever seen posted on this board, no bullshit, you need to quit posting

[SZ James (banned)]

[Rise of The Hive]

Dalton LOLOLLOL

[teeray]

TonyN shitposting?

I am shocked I tell you

[panthers55]

One problem comparing the 2 is that they play in different systems which emphasize different things.  For example Dalton's WCO almost always results in a higher completion percentage and fewer Interceptions since it is based on shorter passes and YAC for much of their yardage.  Coryell systems emphasize longer passes which often lowers the completion percentage, increases interceptions and shows a higher YPA.

 

[beastson]

Ban OP, I might send the mods some money

[philp]

I bet newton has the most yards lost from sacks in the league. I just got off a 12 hour shift so I'm not looking it up. It's a drive killer and happens multiple times per game. That's my biggest knock on newton.

[Ricky Spanish]

I bet newton has the most yards lost from sacks in the league. I just got off a 12 hour shift so I'm not looking it up. It's a drive killer and happens multiple times per game. That's my biggest knock on newton.

 

Double edged sword of a mobile QB. He'll make a retarded 8 yard scramble for loss, then break five tackles to pick up the first down on 3rd and 15. 

 

Also the Line isn't very good, so he's getting hit as soon as he takes the last step in his drop back. 

[cardiackat88.]

Oh yea, let me guess, you're gonna say that if Dalton and Cam played each other's teams they are so much alike that it would end in a tie.

Dumbest thing I ever heard.

[MichaelNewtonII]

Dalton has such a better surrounding team than newton... Give Cam AJ Green instead of dalton and those stats would be much further apart